Bernd 2022-05-13 18:50:56 ⋅ 1y No. 148395
Remember Jordan B Peterson? He disappeared at some point and now re-emerged as EXPERT ON CHINA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf1D9-zSOME Why do people who don't speak Chinese language and never been to China, who live in countries that predominantly post only bad biased things about China - why do they think they can be experts on China? Would you listen to some nigger from Congo who doesn't speak English never been to USA but who would profess to you that he is an expert on USA because he read a lot of anti-American news in some nigger-tier african newspaper? This is American expert community focused on China - a bunch of retards who don't know anything about the country, but want to be relevant because there is a fear that China can outgrow USA, and these fake experts job is to calm the audience with stories like "CHINA WILL FAIL, CHINA WILL COLLAPSE, CALM THE FUCK UP, CHINA IS DOOMED"
Bernd 2022-05-13 18:55:21 ⋅ 1y No. 148396
and why do you thing Jordan B Peterson picked this topic as his come back? He knows this is the hip story, he wants to be in good with cathedral, with think tank crowds, he thinks its like a positive dog whisteling like saying - >i am against China too, do you see, deep state? i am on the side of CIA, FBI and State department, i am anti-Chinese, give me some coverage in secretly state sponsored news and organisations, give me some clout and i will sing more and more anti-Chinese propaganda, i am still usefull even if i slept like a log on a rehab in some Moscow clinic after being hooked up on drugs to cure pains that i developed after going raw meat diet listening to my retarded daughter who heard it from some guru online, but it doesn't matter, i am back and i can still be of use to the imperialist machine!
Bernd 2022-05-13 19:08:10 ⋅ 1y No. 148397
also, where is that other thread about China? i remember some slovenian retard posting about Evergrande and debt collapse there saying it is the end of China i wanted to laugh at his predictions because as always they didn't come to life, because he consumes garbage from same self-proclaimed fake China experts like this washed up junkie Peterson yesterday you lie in your vomit and convulse in some moscow clinic, tomorrow you can just proclaim you are an expert on China, repeat a few racist cliches about how rigid Chinese are and lack imagination - and you will gain audience and support from deep state? i just watched Peterson's video and he says at 3:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf1D9-zSOME "i come to USA a lot, i ve been almost to every US state" but did he ever travel to China, to any province? No. Not a single time did he travel to China, but again, he seems to be under the impression he has some deep knowledge and is capable of speaking about the subject with smug face of the expert. Thats so bizzare. To see the arogance of men like that
Bernd 2022-05-13 19:17:15 ⋅ 1y No. 148398
I like this site because it shows you the titles of the videos and you can post links to videos and titles would be neatly arranged in a column. So check this column and tell me its not a cope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bww_LNrJYHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIFly9M8K80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3kIsW4KEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OulAdP-JzsA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv8hmXeb4Bo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2AwfgOpSUM Winning people don't need that cope
Bernd 2022-05-13 19:53:18 ⋅ 1y No. 148406
Never watched any memerson video
Bernd 2022-05-13 19:55:41 ⋅ 1y No. 148408
>>148406 at some point youtube algorithms were literally forcing him on people you could have been watching some irrelevant gaming video and after it ends - there would be peterson video next, this was very strange and retarded. like i literally started raging at some point and started blocking all channels with him in hopes that Youtube will get a clue that im not intrested now that peterson speaks shit about China i suppose they will boost his videos again
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:18:27 ⋅ 1y No. 148410
>>148397 Lol, lmao. You think China is doing the idiotic lockdowns just for fun? It's a front to hide how badly their economy is doing. Force shut it down instead of letting it collapse. Btw, now it's not just Evergrande anymore, Sunac is fucked too.
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:34:45 ⋅ 1y No. 148413
>>148410 So lockdowns is the current "reason of the inevitable collapse of China"? Lets abbreviate this for short R- Reason O - Of T - The I - Inevitable C - Collapse O - Of C - China ROTICOC ! So the current ROTICOC is lockdowns in the few cities? Somehow lockdown in Shanghai supposed to be some horrible even? Who the fuck cares about Shanghai? When lockdowns end your memory is going to empty and erase this ROTICOC and you going to fill the ROTICOC vacancy with some new thing?
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:46:09 ⋅ 1y No. 148415
Turns out Sunac just fucked mostly foreigners who invested in dollars, but payed up investors who were locals its just as if you were foreigner but bought Russian stocks. Somewhere some Wojak is crying because China refused to pay to him on his investment and just said "default, now fuck off", but payed Chinese investors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kUbgEaYBA
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:47:39 ⋅ 1y No. 148416
>>148413 No, lockdown is the kabuki theatre to hide how fucked China really is. It's a distraction.
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:49:34 ⋅ 1y No. 148418
>>148416 So you are like that nigger from Congo who never been to USA and doesn't speak English, believes that Biden lost all the power in USA and now Q is giving orders, while most of USA is heading to civil war, based on some facebook post - conspiracy tier
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:52:22 ⋅ 1y No. 148420
>>148418 Idk, if you have a better explanation why China is trying so hard to shoot itself in the foot as many times as possible, go ahead, enlighten me)))
Bernd 2022-05-13 20:56:51 ⋅ 1y No. 148422
>>148420 it all depends on whether you are lucid enough to understand and accept reality China doesn't want to let COVID run loose, because if China drops Zero-Covid then millions of old people will die and blame will fall on Communist party of China. So they have to choose between the lockdown and damage to economy or letting COVID run wild like in USA and damage to economy and damage to party They picked to pursue a lockdown, because it also valuable lesson that can be used in war times. When you lock down a city, you get expirience how to feed people, how to provide them with food, water and everything they need. In wars similar lockdowns will happen, but China will have the technology and skills for that, easy to mobilize people, easy to place everyone in the factory, easy to stop damage from American bioweapons.
Bernd 2022-05-13 21:09:12 ⋅ 1y No. 148423
>>148422 >if China drops Zero-Covid then millions of old people will die So you're saying Chinese vaccine was snake oil? >it also valuable lesson that can be used in war times. When you lock down a city, you get expirience how to feed people, how to provide them with food, water and everything they need. So far they're only failing at it hard. Lol.
Bernd 2022-05-13 21:19:19 ⋅ 1y No. 148424
>>148423 No, vaccines don't guarantee 100% protection whether in USA, whether in China. and besides China is not mandating its vaccines, its just physically harder to vaccinate 1.4 billion people than something the size of American population > failing at it hard And you know about it from what biased source?
Bernd 2022-05-13 22:07:44 ⋅ 1y No. 148428
>>148395 >Jordan B Peterson Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXxlYzBCno
Bernd 2022-05-13 22:28:57 ⋅ 1y No. 148429
>>148424 >And you know about it from what biased source? I think phone recorded videos are a source less biased than official state propaganda. But even then, whenever state propaganda writes a piece that says they "dispel rumours" that's an admission that it's true.
Bernd 2022-05-13 22:41:35 ⋅ 1y No. 148431
>nigger >nigger >nigger Wow, racist much?
Bernd 2022-05-14 07:43:55 ⋅ 1y No. 148444
>>148429 i know the phone videos from some different city 5 years ago can be presented as current news, and even from a diffrent country. I saw some Indonesian videos from 8 years ago presented as proof of current events in Xinjiang, and even some sado-mazo roleplayer was filming porn about being abused by a cop - it was his kink - but people on twitter were seriously sharing it as example of abuse in Chinese jails. so i don't trust any sources that claim to report independent news on China, they often add made up translation to simple conversations, beacuse western people don't speak Chinese and could read fake subtitles believing that this is actualy whats being said
Bernd 2022-05-14 14:12:45 ⋅ 1y No. 148462
>>148444 5 years ago there were 大白 roaming the streets? 5 years ago law enforcement wore hazmat suits?
Bernd 2022-05-14 16:20:19 ⋅ 1y No. 148463
>>148462 Not big whites, but they are posting a lot of different videos with different claims. Kuklusclan party was in Wuhan and is across many cities, doing different silly things over 2 years, i do not defend all of them, some village dummie with little education could have gotten some things wrong, but in the population of 1.4 billion there are a lot of dummies. As i said if there is 1 ultra-epic retard like Chris Chan on 1 million people in every country than USA would have 332 of them because USA has 332 mill. But in China with same odds there would be 1400 chris chans and for an observer who cherrypicks and doesn't account for big statistics could seem like China has a lot of retards, but its only because they have more people in general
Bernd 2022-05-15 11:46:03 ⋅ 1y No. 148507
>BUT AT WHAT COST! for shit like that in Western countries you\d be canceled, but its okay to bemoan that China followed quarantine protocols
Bernd 2022-05-25 21:16:59 ⋅ 1y No. 149582
more wishcasting. Just read the names of these videos, you don't even need to watch them, just read the titles and think why there is a demand for such videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zGQFceDrIM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-4VQNqMCU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1UM3894a6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERsEKLdphk Can China succeed at anything according to these videos? if you watch these videos, China is failing, collapsing, ending, desintegrating constantly. But at the same time China somehow remains stable and grows
Bernd 2022-05-25 21:27:59 ⋅ 1y No. 149585
Why some Westerners so obsessed with "CHINA BAD" they watch this garbage? Like wtf is this demand. Like some Westerners have the need to fill the role of the bad guy with some country or a person, thats their worldview - there is this niche, this hole that has to be filled. And they watch this English teacher's videos who literally just mishmashes >China bad, steal, hurr durrr, cheat, bad, evil, spy, fear hurr durr in different combinations and its enough. If this guy was making videos about how China is great, then he would have like 100 views, but since he picked the topic of China bad then his views skyrocketed and none of the videos are indepth, its all shallow fearmongering and racism basically, but since its racism against Chinese its allowed on Youtube imagine making such videos about jews and Israel
Bernd 2022-05-25 21:38:16 ⋅ 1y No. 149589
>>149586 you are sane, but i'm sure that some people will try to fix you and see you as a problem so they gonna brainwash you to make you care about muslims in China, as if this is so important, relations of Germany and China should be revised or broken. Meanwhile no one cared about millions of muslims suffering from US invasions in the middle east, who cares if their homes are bombed, husbands are torn by bullets or if they are misplaced - this is no issue, but yougurts in Xinjiang is very troublesome, they seem are not allowed to treat their women as property and their religious freedoms of killing infidels and declaring caliphate with Sharia law are being infringed upon by China
Bernd 2022-05-25 21:42:41 ⋅ 1y No. 149592
>>149589 >Meanwhile no one cared about millions of muslims suffering from US invasions in the middle east You really don't remember how Germany and France vetoed US interventions in the middle east? How it caused a huge spat that led to massive butthurt in burgerland, all the "freedom fries" shenanigans and such?
Bernd 2022-05-25 22:04:26 ⋅ 1y No. 149594
>>149592 vetoed? Germany has millitary in Iraq right now https://defencehub.live/threads/german-federal-armed-forces-deployment-in-iraq-to-continue.11602/ Same with Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_casualties_in_Afghanistan they make noises, but in the end they toe the line. Noises are to fool some people like you into thinking there is some degree of independence in their decision making, but its just noises. Independed actors make actions, not noises
Bernd 2022-05-26 00:40:12 ⋅ 1y No. 149605
>>149594 Yes, vetoed. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-oppose-iraq-war-in-un/a-761326 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/22/germany.france It is why US ended up having to organise it around the structures of UN Security Council and NATO, by forming the "Coalition of the Willing" and MNF-I. BTW, there was also massive backlash against George Bush and the war coming from popular music artists in general. To name just a few: Green Day - American Idiot Radiohead - Hail to the Thief Tom Waits - Real Gone Verdict: >Meanwhile no one cared about millions of muslims suffering from US invasions in the middle east, is a false statement. And to answer your concerns: >Germany has millitary in Iraq right now And Russia had military on a NATO mission to Kosovo 1999-2003. Your point? https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2003/07-july/e0702a.htm
Bernd 2022-05-26 07:10:37 ⋅ 1y No. 149615
>>149605 One thing is to bark in UN, its another thing to put sanctions on a country. Have Germany ever do that to USA after its war crimes? like the Abu Ghraib prison torture shit - US invaded Iraq under false premise, then occupied it and tortured its people in prisons. And its almost memory holed, there were no international sanctions about it Invasion-occupation-imprisonment-torture Where was German policy on human rights back then? Any sanctions back then? Everyone pretended it was just a bunch of bad apples in army, like found the scapegoats who got themselves on camera, but the whole command was spared who probably knew what was happening. It was probably the case of leaking, and there were dozens of such jails in middle east with torture and murder by Americans, only they were not sloppy to leak it.
Bernd 2022-05-26 07:20:48 ⋅ 1y No. 149616
>>149605 and up to this day Americans have their own concentration camp for muslims in Guantanomo bay where they torture people who are held there with no charges. These people can't even go to court and say "i am innocent" because they are kidnapped and held at gunpoint because American government doesn't want justice system to slow down and interfere with the process of torture. If courts were involved, there would be lawyer , press, jury - these prisioners in Guantanomo bay are devoid of anything like that, they have no charges against them, and US government just wants to keep them in constant pain and behind bars. Its literally like that - concentration and torture camp for muslims but since its done by Americans, everyone forgets about it, no one talks about it, there are no sanctions, no international condemnation from partners but they pretend to care about Chinese muslims you can cry "whataboutism" but yes, how can you pretend to care about human rights selectively? Its ok when muslims killed and tortured by America, but we must be united in condemnation of supposed torture of muslims by China?
Bernd 2022-05-26 16:44:48 ⋅ 1y No. 149653
>>149615 >>149616 >Abu Ghraib >Guantanamo Bay Both of which we've learned everything we know about through – supposedly biased and propagandistic wectern media and Amnesty International that according to you keep bashing Russia and China while defending US's arse. https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde14/136/2003/en/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/abuse-at-abu-ghraib/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/abuse-photos-ii/ >Where was German policy on human rights back then? Americans who were involved in Abu Ghraib were on trial in... Germany. https://www.dw.com/en/abu-ghraib-hearing-underway-in-germany/a-1305672 >Any sanctions back then? Since you already brought up "whataboutism", let me also ask you: Is China under any embargo right now? To finish with even more whataboutism, feel free to peruse the attached photo.
Bernd 2022-05-26 16:59:48 ⋅ 1y No. 149655
Bernd 2022-05-26 18:07:47 ⋅ 1y No. 149663
China is going to collapse because they have too many appartments and homes and they probably will have insuficient ammount of homeless people to support the necessary level of poverty! They are done, totally failed, haven't you heard about the debt, fail, collapse, fall, end words we used in combination with China?
Bernd 2022-05-26 20:07:20 ⋅ 1y No. 149674
>>149663 >chinese construction industry collapses >suddenly, ...
Bernd 2022-05-27 06:23:33 ⋅ 1y No. 149702
>>149674 >construction industry collapses Is this the current (27th of may) ROTICOC ? China built so many cities, bridges and tunnels >BUT AT WHAT COST!
Bernd 2022-05-31 19:39:43 ⋅ 1y No. 152029
Bernd 2022-05-31 19:46:58 ⋅ 1y No. 152043
We should bump serious discussion more so Zeta can into KC culture. If he has the attention span for it.
Bernd 2022-06-02 02:11:10 ⋅ 1y No. 156012
>>148395 on this side, it is said that, as they have already undermined China, it is the turn of Africa, richard nixon's visit to China 1972 I don't remember how it's called plan X I read it texas library translatte; de este lado, se habla que, como ya minaron a china, toca turno a africa, visita de richard nixon a china 1972 no recuerdo como se llama el plan X lo lei en una libreria de texas
Bernd 2022-06-14 12:16:17 ⋅ 1y No. 170507
Zeihan gets destroyed by soy boldy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlQKdoWCfAg Basically China's existance and financial success is such a big discomfort to many in the West they just have to cope with it, by saying that Chinese success is just temporary fluke that will come crashing down, because in Western world view they see the white man as superior to small silly asian man who can only fail and make angry faces, clueless about the nature of his failure. But Western man knows the reason - silly Chinese just doesn't have a soul and thats why he is destined to fail, they are not even a real civilisation, but rather like a toy civilisation, like a sand castle built by ants on the beach who don't know about the tides. Meanwhile the superior white man is just sitting in the solid castle built in rock and observes these silly bugs trying to play human and fail again and again. Silly Chinese bugs built cities and flashing skyscrapers, but the Western man knows its all fake, its all not real, its all has some flaw that only he - the White man - can see. Everything these silly ants built is just an illusion, facade, like a simulation that can come crashing down the moment the power just runs out. This deep and unfounded feel of superiority of Western over Chinese is really obvious. In Western eyes, China can never succeed, there is always "BUT" at the end of every success story coming out of China. There must always be some flaw, some mistake these silly Chinese made and couldn't see it because of their inferiority and that mistake at the same time must be so serious and blatantly obvious to the White man, so he could feel himself superior to these silly Chinese who couldn't see this flaw, this mistake. Like if a guy with the sight comes to a house where only blind people live and sees that they walk on glass, constantly slashing their feet, but can't clean it up or realize it. At that moment the guy with eyes feels really extatic and enlightened, because he can see the glass and blind folks can't. The Western people chase the same feel when covering the events in China, they see themselves as people with eyes, and Chinese people like blind fools who just constantly walking on shattered glass and bump into walls and fall out of the windows not knowing why it happens to them. But the Western man knows, he has something these silly Chinese don't have - superior intellect of the White person. And while Chinese may have built some things, its all has crucial flaws and come crashing any minute now because it was builts by blind dumb folks. The Western man doesn't even have to do anything, there is no need fighting the blind guy, he is going to collapse himself any minute now, just two more weeks.
Bernd 2022-06-14 13:19:06 ⋅ 1y No. 170532
>>148398 >>149582 >>148397 Geopop channel deleted their videos, but we still can enjoy the names and titles of these videos thanks to this board feature. This is how many so called geopolitics cover China - they make fake and false predictions and when they don't happen they clean their trail by deleting their failed predictions from history.
Bernd 2022-06-14 22:44:35 ⋅ 1y No. 170900
Bernd 2022-06-15 05:55:08 ⋅ 1y No. 171219
>>170900 What does this have to do with Russia? This thread is about China, so stay the topic. You can bring some doomsayer from your subscription list on one of the social media who posts about the "inevitable collapse of China in two weeks" so we can laugh at him. Enlighten me, what is the current ROTICOC?
Bernd 2022-06-18 23:26:53 ⋅ 1y No. 175246
He is a libertarian, so what do you expect?
Bernd 2022-06-20 09:09:35 ⋅ 1y No. 176210
>>175246 oy, they deleted more videos. more pieces of COLLAPSE! wisdom lost from the internet. also, they have a Patreon, imagine that, someone donated them money and now they deleted their precious analysis
Bernd 2022-06-21 07:51:03 ⋅ 1y No. 176932
Finally Chinese begin to understand how Western world operates, they learned about multiple actors conspiracies and how the narratives get propped up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5dKIFVmRs
Bernd 2022-06-21 09:28:52 ⋅ 1y No. 176946
>>176932 Imagine being China, not putting Uyghurs in labour camps nor sterilising them, yet being too paranoid about national security to let anyone confirm that. Epic fail!
Bernd 2022-06-21 10:28:25 ⋅ 1y No. 176963
>>176946 Actually UN representative visited Xinjiang and found no genocide, but this visit was criticized by Anti-Chinese zealots because this allowed to falsify their lies. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1266772.shtml The crew of retards immidiatelly started screaming that her visit was "supervised" somehow as if the high UN official was supposed to just walk the streets of Xinjiang alone and do one-woman-crew investigations, breaking into closets trying to find skeletons. So how would you suppose China prove the negative, that there is no genocide even if UN official visit is smeared by US propaganda and loyal lapdog media who recieve money from USA or re-post messages from RFA who are on the American payroll?
Bernd 2022-06-21 11:37:16 ⋅ 1y No. 176971
>>148395 In my opinion, paid trolling takes place. An anti-Chinese writer decides to earn some monies by posting stuff which says "ITS HAPPENING but not with us... not in US..." The **town with no name's** Sun catches on Some other shitty newspapers catch on CNBC and other agencies quote stories claiming "first The Sun told the story although X has neither confirmed nor denied it"
Bernd 2022-06-21 12:04:58 ⋅ 1y No. 176972
>>176971 There are few of American funded newspapers - radio free asia for example publishes report, and then other media organisations start reposting it, and in the link of repost they change the source of the report always citing the previous news paper, so after a few reposts the news look as organic and no one looks deep to see that the original root source was American funded puppet publication. No one investigates news sources like that digging through many steps and this way Americans plant narratives into the collective perception. Like no one can even say now where is the number of 1000000 million detained Uighurs number came from, there was no scientific paper with counting method, no one determined the date when this number was counted. We can't even say "at this date, this month this year the number of Uighurs in camps was 1000000" to later try to measure the change of Uighurs in camps with the initial number of 1000000, we can't fucking do it because we don't even know who counted them, when and how. No one is counting them now, people just spitball numbers out of the blue. Some retard on twitter can just escalate and scream "SIX MILLION!" out of his ass and this can be then reposted without any checking or question how he shat this number.
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:04:48 ⋅ 1y No. 176982
>>176963 On a guided tour, yes. Unless someone goes in unannounced to check on the situation, the reports are worth toilet paper.
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:19:44 ⋅ 1y No. 176985
>>176963 > even if UN Btw UN is mostly useless and corrupted speakers club so their words don't mean a thing. As probably any worldwide organization of such sort would have been...
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:24:31 ⋅ 1y No. 176986
>>176982 What do you mean "guided tour"? its just rhetoric. Do you think she was supposed to alone wander the streets of Kashgar and just really go into everyone's toilet and look into everyones asshole? Of course she had people there who showed her around and protected her. Again - you recently claimed that China doesn't allow anyone there, but when they go there, you moving the goal post to "guided tour" bullshit. China cleared its name, everything else as was shown just fake news spread by American puppets who only pretend to care for muslims in hopes that this will hurt China. Americans never cared about muslims when they bombed them, even now Americans don't play compensation and just stole Afghan money, and then through its puppets laments that there is probably going to be famine in Afghanistan. Everyone in the world understands that US doesn't give a fuck about muslims and they lie about Xinjiang just because they want to contain China, like a whore-girlfriend making up rape accusations to ruin someone and cancel them.
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:36:48 ⋅ 1y No. 176987
Not a single muslim country believes in this lie of the century about Uighur genocide. More muslim countries outraged with India and its handling of Kashmir, than with Chinese policies in Xinjiang.
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:39:50 ⋅ 1y No. 176989
>>176985 A lot of people actually travel to Xinjiang and film around, trying to find this ""genocide"", but they find only happy people. Very strange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpeK7qZfz2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtxHvrpjjZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-beTVT7uVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKCIaey92uY
Bernd 2022-06-21 13:50:25 ⋅ 1y No. 176991
>>176989 Yes, if you sent all the "unhappy people" to the inernment camps (I meant volunteer training and reeducating centers) than all your tourists can see is "happy people" around. How many tourists in Soviet Union do you think saw what's happening inside of GULag camps?
Bernd 2022-06-21 14:01:21 ⋅ 1y No. 176994
>>176991 So your belief is unfalsifiable, like its a cult. There is no test that China can pass to prove there are no camps and no prisioners, you will always believe there are millions of prisioners despite seeing even a hundred prisioners yourself.
Bernd 2022-06-21 14:21:43 ⋅ 1y No. 177000
USA holds 2 million people in camps. How can China ever compete? There is even forced labour in American prisons, they just privatized it. So Americans have their own camps where they hold millions of people and extract labour from them for little to no pay, and if they refuse, they beat them and intimidate them https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prisoner-speak-out-american-slave-labor-strike
Bernd 2022-06-21 14:25:53 ⋅ 1y No. 177002
>>176994 There is. See your own argument in >>177000 This is wel known and well documented because US allows independent journalism, thus information on prison labour in USA is publicly available and independently verifiable. It is not a secret & nobod' starts a tantrum when someone challenges them about it. There is no such verifiability when it comes to China. For me to believe China it would take as simple as independent testimonies debunking forced labour claims. Unfortunately, China seems to be too concerned about state secrets to accept independent research to happen in Tarim to verify Chinese claims.
Bernd 2022-06-21 14:43:15 ⋅ 1y No. 177008
>>177000 Why is this always about comparison? Like if they have forced labour in the US then it's totally acceptable for China to have it as well and we shouldn't even expose their camps?
Bernd 2022-06-21 14:55:58 ⋅ 1y No. 177010
>>177002 Look at the images i present to you. How does the journalism help to punish those responsible? It doesnt - Americans KNOW about the war crimes, thanks to journalism, and then congratulate themselves for the fact that they have journalism which can cover in great detail their crimes and attrocities and continue on, convinced that BECAUSE THEY KNOW ABOUT THE CRIMES, THE SYSTEM IS WORKING AND NOTHING HAS TO BE CHANGE. Just because my mistakes were discovered by journalists, it means that this act of journalistic investigation somehow makes it all worth it. There are no demands for firing the officials responsible, for trial, for reform, for reparation or compensations and why would you need this if you can use the journalistic discovery as the heroic act of support for the same system that perpetuates these crimes and attrocities? >>177008 I didn't say its comparable, but a country with such a big prison population you'd imagine they have to shut up and not throw stones in the glass house of their dwelling. Imagine Nazist Germany won ww2 and then started lecturing Americans about genocide of native Americans, while commiting their own genocide of jews. That would look bizzare and you would mock it, right? But i can't mock and condemn Americans for having the biggest prison population, literall concentration camp for muslims in occupied Guantanomo teritory they annexed from Cuba, i can't talk about Americans torturing and killing muslims in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, where they treat muslims like trash that can be just shaken and dropped from the planes, while they pretend to play "the muslim protector" role when it comes to China? I am sure can mock and smash Americans into the filth of their own making and point how retarded and ridiculous they look.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:05:19 ⋅ 1y No. 177013
>>177010 >But i can't mock and condemn Americans for having the biggest prison population, literall concentration camp for muslims in occupied Guantanomo teritory they annexed from Cuba, i can't talk about Americans torturing and killing muslims in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, where they treat muslims like trash that can be just shaken and dropped from the planes You can, and it's constantly brought up. By Americans. It's not a secret. And nobody is frantically trying to cover it up. But mention that maybe China being so secretive implies there might be some labour camps there, and you get shills like you claiming it's all lies and how America is the evilest evil to have ever eviled, thus China is allowed to do it (but it doesn't, because only America is evil).
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:06:01 ⋅ 1y No. 177014
>>177002 >Unfortunately, China seems to be too concerned about state secrets to accept independent research to happen in Tarim to verify Chinese claims. That research team has to be independent, you said it yourself, but how can China be sure that the research team is independent? Like imagine you have a girlfriend who is slandering you and spreading lies that you fuck kids and you hold hostage children slaves in your basement and she provides no proof of this, but she just continues spreading these lies around everyone you know. Would you allow her friends to come into your house with cameras and start "investigating" in your bedrooms, closets and basement? How can you make sure that her friends won't just pull bloodied panties out of the pocket, place them on your bed and film them as evidence that "HE HAD A CHILD HERE, WE FOUND EVIDENCE, HE HID HER SOMEWHERE!" and then what if her friends go into your basement and find the bike chain that you used to chain your bike to the fence and they claim on camera "He used this chain to tie little girls to the floor, he must have moved them before we came here" . And they will start insinuating that you have other property somewhere where you hide kids there. Would you allow this party of friends of your girlfriends who lie and fabricate evidence and then show innocent things like a bike chain as some proof of your guilt - would you allow these bad faith actors to investigate your second house too? And what if they demand you to not be even present when they "investigate" your second house, because that would be "a guided tour"?
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:08:09 ⋅ 1y No. 177015
>>177014 It's simple. Any false claims are easily falsifiable. Of course, China has never actually falsified any claims about Uyghur genocide. Only claimed they are lies with no contrary evidence.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:09:45 ⋅ 1y No. 177016
Btw, how do you explain birth rates in rural Xinjiang dropping more than 50% in 3 years? This is from official Chinese data, ofc.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:13:45 ⋅ 1y No. 177019
>>177016 Where i can see the drop, you need before and after pictures, its just one year numbers. And when you bring the other picture, lets see how other regions of China fare in comparison, because something tells me you haven't looked at this data yourself, you don't know what it says, you just saved this from some site where it claims to be some proof and they expect dumb readers to not look at it themselves, believing some narration which is done probably by Adrian "the one and only" Zenz
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:16:51 ⋅ 1y No. 177020
>>177010 > they have to shut up Why so? Quite the opposite, of course they would do it. It's an easy way to move attention to someone else while clearing your reputation in simpleton's eyes. And if by some unimaginable way Nazi would won they would indeed lecture Americans about genocide. It's exactly the same with Russia today for example when it blames the West in all the crimes they do times more like censorship. Even all their excuse of "denazification" while clearly building up their own Nazi policies is the same thing - "look, I condemn Nazis so you cannot blame me for the Nazi shit I do".
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:19:05 ⋅ 1y No. 177021
>>177016 The drop in fertility can happen due to many natural factors. Urbanization, access to contraceptives, sex education. Things that are very celebrated in the West. They are happy when fertility drops in Western countries, but they frown when fertility drops in Xinjiang? Maybe Uyghur women are actually getting educated and realize they are not breeding machines who have to just study Quran and listen to their husband and have as many kids as he wants. You know - if you even suggest that the drop of fertility of white woman in the West is due to some conspiracy to replace or genocide white, they would call you a conspiracy theorist and put you on the Watch list. But they spread the same conspiracy theories about Xinjiang population statistics, pretending that the drop in fertility is due to some evil plan.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:23:16 ⋅ 1y No. 177023
>>177020 Yes. Which is why Americans constantly talk about other countries. Its not China trying to move attention away from itself, its Americans who have invaded more countries than anyone in this century and to divert attention from it, Americans dedicated enormous ammounts of money to different funds and organisations that talk about the crimes and problems of others, so that behind all this noize about freedom violations and human rights abuses, people wouldn't notice that USA is the champion on all of these metrics. In some ways - i think nazis did win, nazis in USA that is. When ww2 ended, there were still Jim Crow laws, they were not much better than nazis these americans.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:31:46 ⋅ 1y No. 177026
>>177023 Do you even follow the conversations you're part of? We were talking about USA, not China. Yes, they divert people attention, and try to hide their crimes, but it doesn't mean they blame China or other countries without reason. Imagine you robbed a bank and stole million $, and some other guy by coincidence stole another few million $ from the same bank. You told the police about this second guy so they jail him, close the case and don't find about you. Does it make you innocent? No. Does it make this guy innocent? Again no. >i think nazis did win, nazis in USA that is And here you go again. If they do shit it doesn't mean they are the only ones who so shit but you're still talking like "nazi" is some job position that can be taken by only one who you appointed to this position.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:43:27 ⋅ 1y No. 177027
>>177026 USA do blame China with reason, but not because China commits genocide. They do it because they want to smear China and create moral justification for economic and political isolation of the country. Watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5dKIFVmRs The sources of this story about Chinese bad deeds all go to the American government, funded by it, and planned and orchestrated from it. If some group of people in Alaska would claim that USA is commiting genocide of Alaskan native people, and that group would have a headquarters in Moscow, feed information to Russian media, recieve money from Russian government, met with Russian officials. You wouldn't be seriously percieving them, knowing they are Russian puppet who just lie for Russian intrest, but when this happens with Uighurs who all recive American money and have headquarters in Washington DC, we supposed to believe them? Look at this bullshit, Uyghur separatists who have headquarters in Washington DC, recieve money from USA, spread rumors about genocide in Xinjiang and yet we supposed to believe them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Turkistan_Government-in-Exile
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:43:39 ⋅ 1y No. 177029
>>176989 Btw, can you post one which is not just a scripted video of a person walking the same street over and over again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8bJO-to8I
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:44:10 ⋅ 1y No. 177030
>>177027 >USA do blame China with reason, but not because China commits genocide. They do it because they want to smear China and create moral justification for economic and political isolation of the country. Yes. And China could simply not commit genocide, if they didn't want US to be able to do that. >If some group of people in Alaska would claim that USA is commiting genocide of Alaskan native people, and that group would have a headquarters in Moscow, feed information to Russian media, recieve money from Russian government, met with Russian officials. Stopped reading right there, because travelling to Alaska is free and unrestricted and anyone can go there to confirm that. So Russia is free to claim that and nobody will believe them. Meanwhile when US makes lies about China, everyone believes US, simply because China doesn't let anyone confirm the claims. It is, thus, entirely China's fault, that they present their point so unbelievably.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:48:14 ⋅ 1y No. 177031
>>177030 China doesn't commit any genocide, the Uyghur population quadrupled over the last decades. Its a funny genocide when the number of Uyghurs only grows. And even every Yuan of money in China has Uyghur letters on it, its so fucking funny how some people can claim genocide when these people are celebrated and always had exemption from 1 child policy
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:53:17 ⋅ 1y No. 177034
>>177030 traveling to Alaska is not free, you have to pay money and you could travel to Xinjiang untill Covid-19 hit, but rarely anyone would do it, because its not as exciting as some tourist attraction. Its a fucking boring place, why would anyone go there without specific highly motivated reason? Would you fly to Xinjiang on your vacation or to Thailand or Bahamas? Its not a hard question. You go to Xinjiang and you see dusty streets and it looks like fucking mix of Pakistan and Afghanistan with Chinese characters on the billboards. Not something people are attracted in droves, but there are no specific restrictions. If you not going to say to the officer in customs " i want to go to Xinjiang to film some industrial buildings from the distance and claim those are camps" they are going to let you in pretty soon and you could eat that Bazar donkey and goat meat shit as much as you want smelling unique Xinjiang dust and odor. Not going to be pretty exciting i imagine.
Bernd 2022-06-21 15:59:12 ⋅ 1y No. 177037
>>177029 The guy is filming legit prisons and then he films some buildings from the distance and claims they are camps. I can go to USA and do the same, i would go to some industrial area where they have barbed wire around some property and claim "uhhh, its a spooky camp not marked on the map!" and if people can't read English they could believe me. You don't speak Chinese so he can fool you by using the gap of your knowledge. And as Taiwanese he has an agenda of smearing China, so he cannot be used as a source of information anyway, since we talked about "independent researchers" and Taiwanese who hate China cannot be claimed to be independent Next!
Bernd 2022-06-21 16:28:58 ⋅ 1y No. 177050
Seems like people still travel to xinjiang so your dream can come true and you can visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ItIMx2PXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDbS-p7yJT4 But Americans don't want you to visit Xinjiang, Americans want Xinjiang to become independent Islamic state like Afghanistan, where women would be deprived of rights and freedoms, Americans support terrorists and separatists in Xinjiang, because they want another landblocked shithole appear on the map and once it becomes independent, Americans would immidiatelly forget about freedoms and rights of Uyghurs. Like that time when Americans pretended to care about Lybians and when they deposed of Muammar Gaddafi, the situation in Lybia IMMIDIATELLY DISAPPEARED FROM THE NEWS. As if someone gave the order to not talk about Lybia anymore, even though the every day agenda was that Lybian rights and freedoms are super important and even the average American family was supposed to watch the news and care, like some Joe was supposed to work full shift in his truck, come home and think about Lybians and their rights, as if this is the thing that should occupy his mind. But when Gadaffi died and country descended into chaos - puff! no news about Lybia, even though the civil war is still ongoing there, with slave camps and human right abuses. If Americans succeed in making Xinjiang independent from China, they would immidiatelly forget about whats happening there. Lol, Americans already forgot about Afghanistan, they don't want to be reminded about this mess anymore because it hurts Biden's ratings, so lets just pretend it doesn't happen, but lets keep Afghan money while we are at it.
Bernd 2022-06-21 19:18:47 ⋅ 1y No. 177151
Here is the example of how Western media operated in Xinjiang. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NKfqCov0mE They came to some factory and started filming from distance. When the security officer of a factory came to do his job - to find out who are those people with cameras - they continued shooting the cameras and refused cooperation, so he called the police, later the reporters lied that he was some government official and that his "interference" was somehow proving that there was something shady in the building. They didn't go inside, they didn't try to get permission for interview from the owner, they only needed some shots of the factory from the distance and some video of scary security official and police to support the narrative that they were trying to push. They weren't intrested in truth and reality, they were only intrested in just few distance shots of the buildings to support their other insinuations about what was happening inside. As i said previously, if you had a girlfriend who break up with you and started spreading rumors about you fucking little kids. Imagine if that girl comes to your house at night and she records video of your house from the distance and then says to camera "DID YOU HEAR THAT??? i heard kids screams, i am not sure you heard them on video recording, but i heard them, i have to run, he probably rapes kids right now in that home! i am afraid for my life and i have to run away from that rapist house!" Would you later allow this girl to inspect your house to prove that you don't rape kids, if she already lied about you multiple times and just uses proximity to your home as some ground to spread more lies about you?
Bernd 2022-06-21 19:37:42 ⋅ 1y No. 177162
>>177031 >China doesn't commit any genocide, the Uyghur population quadrupled over the last decades. Its a funny genocide when the number of Uyghurs only grows. That's not what the Chinese government data says, though. http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/ndsj/2021/indexeh.htm 2020 – 1493.22万 minority population in Xinjiang province http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/ndsj/2020/indexeh.htm 2019 – 1489.94万 minority population in Xinjiang province http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/ndsj/2019/indexeh.htm 2018 – 1497.72万 minority population in Xinjiang province http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjsj/ndsj/2018/indexeh.htm 2017 – 1654.48万 minority population in Xinjiang province >>177037 Then why are they not marked as prisons on any map? You're telling me China have secret prisons? >And as Taiwanese he has an agenda of smearing China So, you're telling me I can disregard everything you say about USA as a lie. Got it. >>177050 >ike that time when Americans pretended to care about Lybians and when they deposed of Muammar Gaddafi, the situation in Lybia IMMIDIATELLY DISAPPEARED FROM THE NEWS. Yeah, funny how now that it's Russia meddling in Libya, it's no longer on the news. >>177151 >Would you later allow this girl to inspect your house to prove that you don't rape kids, if she already lied about you multiple times and just uses proximity to your home as some ground to spread more lies about you? Yes. Because I don't rape kids, and she will only make her claims look more laughable by investigation it will proceed.
Bernd 2022-06-21 21:20:24 ⋅ 1y No. 177229
>>177162 >That's not what the Chinese government data says, though. Have you looked at these data sets? I looked at it and its shows a nice juicy trend for minorities over whole country. Plus insane urbanization rate that could explain the sudden drop in birth rates. And so where do you get data the numbers of minority population for Xinjiang for 2017, 2018, 2019? Only the yearbook for 2021 has the page 2-21 Population by Gender, Ethnic Groups and Region in the section of population and THERE you get the number of 1493.22 But where did you get the numbers for 2017 for example? Show me. >Then why are they not marked as prisons on any map? Which buildings on which maps? be specific
Bernd 2022-06-21 21:33:19 ⋅ 1y No. 177235
>>177162 >you're telling me I can disregard everything you say about USA as a lie. Got it. If i go to USA and do the same, if i go to some industrial area where they have barbed wire around some property and claim "uhhh, its a spooky camp not marked on the map!" then you can ignore me. He is doing just that >Yes. Because I don't rape kids, and she will only make her claims look more laughable by investigation it will proceed. You don't get it, she IS investigation. There are no other investigative teams in this scenarion other than your fucked up girlfriend and her friends coming to your house with torches and cameras, claiming you need to confess under the presumption of your guilt. >Yeah, funny how now that it's Russia meddling in Libya, it's no longer on the news. And i oppose Russian meddling in Libya. I don't give a fuck about Libya, its fucking Africa and i would prefer we never got there involved. Anything thats done by Russia in Africa i don't support, its a waste of resources where we will only get out of it looking bad, Africans are genetically ungratefull and even if you help them in few generations they will hate you.
Bernd 2022-06-29 13:50:45 ⋅ 1y No. 188136
I wonder what is going to attract more attention and more doomsaying. American economy collapsing, or Chinese economy over-performing but still being described as "stalled" by pro-Western retards. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2022/06/29/us-economy-shrank-worse-than-expected-16-last-quarter-as-recession-fears-grow/?sh=2efa03575fd7 https://www.dw.com/en/china-first-quarter-economic-growth-slightly-tops-forecast/a-61501989
Bernd 2022-07-13 19:43:41 ⋅ 1y No. 197800
So what is the current ROTICOC for July 2022? "reason of the inevitable collapse of China"? How is China going to collapse this time? What is the Chinobyl for the summer ? How conservatives in USA and us-suckers in Europe cope and lull themselves into slumber today?
Bernd 2022-07-14 22:40:03 ⋅ 1y No. 198244
>>197800 https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3185003/what-you-need-know-about-henan-banking-crisis ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bernd 2022-07-16 13:24:41 ⋅ 1y No. 198918
>>198244 How is one regional bank failing to pay people in time is the threat to all China? Beside - government in China already took control of the situation, will compensate people and investigate bank managment. But notice how Its allways like this - some small barely relevant problem in some second-tier region gets overblown out of proportions and retards start salivating, as if this little sore, this little bruise on the Chinese economy is going to bring it all down. Really shows how desperate you are to seek sources of information like this that would confirm your biased and racist expectations. And how about 1000 news would report about the problem, but only 2 or 5 will report about how the problem got solved and everyone got home and back to their business.
Bernd 2022-07-16 13:33:26 ⋅ 1y No. 198920
>>198244 plus it shows that China can have mass protests - imagine that. A lot of American anti-Chinese narrative circulate about the idea that Chinese are like bugmen who don't object to their government and that the government is so oppressive that if you get on the street to protest, you would get shot immidiatelly or tank would appear out of thin air and run over you but we see that when people in China get in trouble - they speak up, protest and government reacts listening to their demands, fixing the mistakes of some bankers. Like a normal democratic country would do
Bernd 2022-07-16 13:47:42 ⋅ 1y No. 198924
Like if we look as some isolated story in the US - for example power outages in Texas. When people see shit like this, they just say - "oh, what a silly Texas. This is because of nuance like that, its heat, or the blame of that particular regional governor". But if outages of power like that were to happen in China in whatever the fuck backwards region? Retards would start salivating and looking too deep into it, and words STRATEGIC would get attached to it. Just because some 1 hour outage that was fixed pretty fast would happen in some shitty backwards region of China. There will be no nuance, no attempts to understand maybe its the govrnor of this region fucked up - nope, its all will be blamed on Beijing and Xi And then CHINESE GOVERNMENT will fix this problem and everyone will forget about it, meanwhile that problem in USA will persists and everyone will just juggle nuances and explanations around, maybe come up with some fancy new world to explain why this problem is normal and ok and nothing should be changed, they would rather change the language and definitions of words in USA to bend reality, instead of fixing their problems.
Bernd 2022-07-16 14:16:42 ⋅ 1y No. 198925
>>198918 >one regional bank four banks, across two regions >the threat to all China? when this becomes a norm >government in China already took control of the situation government will get fucked by burdens increasing & slowly going over their capacity to hold the lid down. >>198920 >plus it shows that China can have mass protests yeah, against private entities they're encouraged that's the whole fucking narrative of communist revolution larping by the government against government, lol, lmao but, whatever, cope harder china is perfect and can't fail and whenever china is failing this is only one small regional irrelevant problem but when there's a power outage in Texas this is proof that US is a failure but wait! unlike china, US does not try to parade its legitimacy through how well they can appease population and fix the fuckups of regional mismanagement, so... unlike china, US is not at existential danger when fuckups like this happen worrypanda.png
Bernd 2022-07-16 14:53:55 ⋅ 1y No. 198940
>>198925 >government will get fucked by burdens increasing & slowly going over In two weeks? >china is failing this is only one small regional irrelevant problem but when there's a power outage in Texas this is proof that US is a failure This isn't what i said. I mean that the degree of nuance should be applied to every case. But you yourself posted some local story and believed it had broader significance. If i posted something like picrelated and claimed that this story is the reason for incoming collapse of USA, you would be laughing. But one difference with China here is that people in USA are not protesting. They just get robbed by rich people and are ok with it.
Bernd 2022-07-16 15:19:54 ⋅ 1y No. 198947
>>198925 >US is not at existential danger when fuckups like this happen Yes it is in danger and its exactly because of this attitude. Americans think they are some exceptional people, that things that happen to other countries won't happen to them, that they can ignore problems or just rename them, change definitions, maybe turn them into political campaign of one party against another, but problems don't get solved and accumulate. In this sence Americans remind me of some self confident young guy who relies on his immune system too much, he knows that if he breaks a limb he can regenerate quickly but doesn't notice that he is getting older and older, but still thinks that his health can allow him to neglect many warning signs and dangerous pathogens and trauma. American immune system, its legitimacy is failing. Because much of the legitimacy of USA relied on economic prosperity, high GDP, constant economic growth. People are migrating to USA because its a prosperous country and because of those migrants US can even plug its demographic crysis. But with economic problems exacerbating, with more and more republicans becoming anti-migration - not a lot of people will want to come to USA in the future. In fact there can become a day during my life time when we will see more people leave USA, than come into USA as migrants. All thanks to economic, social and racial problems.
Bernd 2022-07-16 15:32:02 ⋅ 1y No. 198949
>>148395 Didn't read Fuck china Fuck the us Fuck kikes Fuck jannies
Bernd 2022-07-16 15:57:12 ⋅ 1y No. 198953
>>198940 >But one difference with China here is that people in USA are not protesting. They just get robbed by rich people and are ok with it. Exactly. And this is why China is in much more precarious situation, bc of what they chose to base the social contract on. In US, it's simple: anything goes, in return the government will protect your freedoms. If you're dumb enough to fall for some pyramid scheme, your own fucking problem. In China… government parades itself as paragon of prosperity to whom you surrender freedom in exchange for security. So if you get fucked over, it's the government's business to fix it. Consequently, people MUST protest when they're victims of own stupidity (it's a call for help, "government please take care of me"). This is now starting to snowball & slowly government will no longer be able to take care of the fuckups by dumb people. Meanwhile, in US, dumb people get fucked over, nobody cares, and the functioning parts carry on as if nothing has happened.
Bernd 2022-07-16 15:58:23 ⋅ 1y No. 198954
>>198947 >Because much of the legitimacy of USA relied on economic prosperity, high GDP, constant economic growth Its dont. That's China's narrative. US's narrative is "muh freedumbs".
Bernd 2022-07-16 16:28:33 ⋅ 1y No. 198966
>>198953 In case of American crypto firm - that is stupidity, but Chinese property banks a little different, this thing is real unfortunate, poor people couldn't predit these bastards would steal their money. >US's narrative is "muh freedumbs". You imply some symbolic exchange. In USA people can be poor, but in exchange they still believe this immaterial idea of freedom. in China there is a similar symbolic exchange - people in China can support CCP if they give them immaterial idea of greatness of Chinese nation, nationalism, and to do this China can just show them some big impressive numbers (that don't often affect their life personally), show them big impressive metro stations, big cities, send astronauts into space. And as long as China could deliver those things, a lot of shitty events in China could be forgiven by people. Do you think that people in Anhui province would go protesting because some guys in Henan got scammed by the bank? no way, lol I imagine that if CCP will manage to land Chinese person on the Moon, then they will get a giant credit of legitimacy that they could spend however they like, even if few provinces burn, eveyrone would still be like "Dude, but atleast CCP raised the red flag on the Moon". China is going in that direction. A few milestones got reached - like poverty aleviation, life expectancy prolonged. Some retarded decisions of CCP in the past get excused by people because of these positives, like people in China understand that one-child policy was cruel and retarded but they are alive themselves and they don't get caught up on things that could have been.
Bernd 2022-07-16 16:30:37 ⋅ 1y No. 198968
>>198954 and that muh freedumbs idea also getting eroded before our very eyes, i don't remember your twitter but i am sure you talking and reading about it pretty often
Bernd 2022-07-16 17:07:09 ⋅ 1y No. 198981
>>198966 >people in China can support CCP if they give them immaterial idea of greatness of Chinese nation, nationalism, and to do this China can just show them some big impressive numbers (that don't often affect their life personally), show them big impressive metro stations, big cities, send astronauts into space. And as long as China could deliver those things, a lot of shitty events in China could be forgiven by people. Exactly. Guess what happens when banks start crumbling, when real estate market (the only thing chinese were allowed to invest in, really) is slowly getting more and more fucked (more relevant recent news: https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3185326/china-facing-more-economic-woes-ahead-gdp-release-mortgage) &c. happens? >even if few provinces burn, eveyrone would still be like "Dude, but atleast CCP raised the red flag on the Moon". China is going in that direction. A few milestones got reached - like poverty aleviation, life expectancy prolonged. Yeah. And those people in the provinces that burn, those people who still live in shitty conditions (but officially that's not poverty), they don't matter – hundreds of millions of people getting gaslit about the condition they live in, we can just ignore them. Right? >>198968 Kinda true, but US government is also very incompetent at actually taking freedoms away, so it stays at scary words being thrown & nothing actually happens in reality.
Bernd 2022-07-16 17:14:21 ⋅ 1y No. 198982
That said... >>188136 China is reporting 0.4% growth for Q2. https://english.news.cn/20220715/5cefeddaef6746d6885121b24de0d845/c.html
Bernd 2022-07-16 17:35:41 ⋅ 1y No. 198999
>>198981 >Guess what happens when banks start crumbling If that happens, government intervenes. And then you just move the goalpost making crying Wojak face and say "They can't keep getting away with this!" USA bailed out a lot of banks in 2008, helped them to not go under. China can do the same. And i see that a lot of coverage about Chinese property problem is not objective - like rememeber Evergrande? How it was supposed to be the end of China? I emember. You were almost jumping out of happines somewhere last year, probably grinning from ear to ear. And now what? No one even remembers Evergrande, they kinda defaulted, but instead they are now making electric-cars somehow. Now this fixation on Henan bank fraudsters. Also probably not going to do anything. Before that there was shanghai lockdowns, electric outages, rain season, three gorges dam, and wuhan virus. All these things not ending China like a lot of people hope for >we can just ignore them. Right? I didn't say that. I said that IF province burn, that wouldn't be the end of CCP because of this credit of legitimacy. That credit of legitimacy can give them wiggle room to suck up some downsides. That credit of legitimacy can be used to do some serious reforms for example. For example government in India doesn't have that credit of legitimacy so when they do some even a small reform, whole country starts uproar and crying. Recently India tried to reform its army and people started bitching and moaning like crazy https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/16/analysis-new-india-army-plan-may-have-devastating-consequences >>198982 Thats fucked up, not gonna lie, Xi Jinping shouldn't have chocked Shanghai so hard. One can hope that after seeing these numbers he won't do anything retarded in the future.
Bernd 2022-07-16 17:36:35 ⋅ 1y No. 199001
oh, don't mind my flag, i have to use VPN constantly because i need to access a lot of sites which a blocked in Russia, like twitter and others
Bernd 2022-07-16 18:11:23 ⋅ 1y No. 199028
>>198999 >If that happens, government intervenes. government is omnipotent and no matter how many fuckups happen they will always make them disappear with a magic wand swish t. you, apparently >rememeber Evergrande? How it was supposed to be the end of China? It is. Collapses don't happen overnight. It is still an ongoing event. >No one even remembers Evergrande, they kinda defaulted, but instead they are now making electric-cars somehow. Fun fact: they kinda aren't, their deal with my company is frozen indefinitely lmao
Bernd 2022-07-16 18:15:55 ⋅ 1y No. 199032
>>148395 dey wa'ch animay dey wear gomie tees, innit? simpul as
Bernd 2022-07-16 18:33:51 ⋅ 1y No. 199053
>>199028 Chinese government is competent enough to respond to the threats, predict them, plan ahead. They have a lot of departments working hard on these issues, they don't get complacent. In a lot of ways - its thanks to the Westerners who seek Chinese weak points and pray for collapse.of China. Chinese people can read English and when they read Western articles op-eds and propaganda news about "This is the reason why China will collapse this year!", they anyway start paying attention to these problems that are pointed out in those articles and try to mitigate these problems if this is possible. If Western media would found out about some Chinese weak point and WOULDN'T report on it, maybe Chinese government would miss it and then something really bad would happen, but so far Western media alarmist rhetoric keeps China on alert. >Collapses don't happen overnight. It is still an ongoing event. Lool, kek. Lmao even. i remember some court said that Evergrande was due to demolish a dozen of buildings in Hainan that were built kinda illegally and people were hoping for a big shot of this, but even this didn't happen. Evergrande is doing ok, even continues to build a lot of projects.
Bernd 2022-07-16 18:59:42 ⋅ 1y No. 199067
>>199053 If you think having a lot of bureaucracy constantly busy with damage control is good, lol, lmao.
Bernd 2022-07-16 19:23:29 ⋅ 1y No. 199075
>>199067 You again deduce everything to crude cliche simplifications. Chinese government is not just primitive useless bureaucracy, it is in fact a well-oiled machine. You linked here >>198982 a report, but you didn't even think how it came to be. It was compiled by National Bureau of Statistics of China and these people are one of the most insane geniuses out there, dealing with mad numbers, they are probably superhuman. Chinese people do well in math and those who win in competitions go to work for Chinese government, helping to count Chinese statistics. The numbers involved are staggering, just imagine thousands of people reading reports from all the regions, counting everything, writing analytical notes and recommendations to local and central governments. But you don't see them work, you don't acknowledge their labour, for you what matters is just the final number to point out how its not so good in second quarter. This is indication of thinking processes of many people in the West, they aren't even slightly curious why China is being succesfull and got to where it is now, how they operate. Many people in the West think Chinese success is just a miracle, a fluke, that Chinese are just sitting on the ass and things just magically worked in their favour for a while, and that soon this mistake will be corrected naturally and Chinese will fall and return to the dirt "where they should be" and justice with the white man on top will be restored. So if you religiously believe in some prophecy of Chinese collapse, of course you not going to study this system that is doomed to fail, in your mind China has already failed, in your mind you live in some predetermined reality and the things in timeline just didn't caught up to the believably predetermined events that HAVE TO HAPPEN . Its as if the book of time, was already written and you got a sneak peak on the last page, saw the collapse of China there and said to yourseelf "i won't even bother stuying this shit, they will collapse, i know"
Bernd 2022-07-16 20:20:58 ⋅ 1y No. 199090
>>199075 I'm afraid I have no retort to this long form cope, as you have not made a single claim this time, other than continuing to worry bear.
Bernd 2022-07-19 10:18:01 ⋅ 1y No. 199982
>>199090 I don't worry - untill obscure CCP panel says there is a reason to worry, there are no reasons to worry.
Bernd 2022-07-23 14:31:56 ⋅ 1y No. 201805
Recently retards had another Chinobyl orgasm, when someone posted online a short video of tanks in the city and suddenly they started spreading lies that this is tanks in Henan to protect banks from protesters. Turns out its not in Henan, its from Shandong and tanks were headed for annual exercise and the city it was filmed in had no protesters at all. But it speaks volumes about retards who want to see some instability in China and see what they want to see even if there are no such things https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-china-tanks-bank-protest-597006254172
Bernd 2022-07-24 00:56:27 ⋅ 1y No. 201972
Bernd 2022-07-25 09:07:02 ⋅ 1y No. 202374
>its OVER >3 years ago >its OVER >10 months ago >its OVER >10 days ago When will they grift be really over?
Bernd 2022-07-25 10:43:30 ⋅ 1y No. 202378
Guys, it all ogre China ALREADY collapsed. Its over, its done, this thread is irrelevant, because there is nothing to discuss.
Bernd 2022-08-01 22:09:44 ⋅ 1y No. 205704
Chinese twitter seem to have a typical monday. Shouting KILL KILL KILL with exclamation marks directed at no one in particular.
Bernd 2022-08-12 01:09:08 ⋅ 1y No. 214185
Are we living in the same world there are thousands of people who watch this garbage, regularly, and maybe they think they getting smarter or something, they watch this shit and then they smug at you, thinking that they are above you intelectually because they consumed this shit
Bernd 2022-08-12 01:41:37 ⋅ 1y No. 214197
i found the channel where they were hiding zeihangasms from me As you know, these things are pretty fragile and spoil very fast, we have to save this time limited content https://www.youtube.com/c/EconomyAndGeopolitics/videos
Bernd 2022-08-15 17:55:28 ⋅ 1y No. 217939
Seems like China could solve its demographic problem by allowing imigration into China from neighbouring countries. So they don't even need to import literall niggers and muslims, they could just invite migrants from countries that share border with China. Right now it is extremely hard to get citizenship of China, but if in the future China will decide that demographics are the problem, they could just open their doors, make the road to citizenship easier and more understandable. On the picture millions of people who live on Chinese border in 2022. A lot of these countries still expirience population growth and could provide Mexico-style type of population boost to China in the future. USA is currently replacing all of their death rate by importing people from Mexico and India. China could do the same, lol. But you hear all day long the same doomsayers who claim that China is already doomed, because some demographic problem could arise in the future, for some reason implying that China will not react if this problem will indeed occur. Some may cope by saying - "No one wants to live in China! No one will move to China, no one is crazy enough to move to this dystopian shithole!" But in reality in 10 years, it will be really lucrative to move to China due to its status of 1st economic superpower in the world. Average wage and level of life will be higher in China compared to those donor countries. So if someone could escape from Myanmar to China - get a job in China, get a house, get a wife, or send money from China back to family to Myanmar, while working in China and producing products there. Why wouldn't they go to China?
Bernd 2022-08-15 18:09:20 ⋅ 1y No. 217942
>>214185 Kek I remember the /tgdg/ threads in 4chan's /pol/ they were made by the same shills that made the /cvg/ threads and now make the monkeypox and ukraine war threads. Pure autism, they have been screaming "The dam is gonna collapse anytime soon!" since 2019. Luckily those threads became irrelevant after 2021 and anons started seeing through that shit, took 2 years for those cringy threads to die, like /cvg/ which thankfully also died this year after 2 years since it started in 2020. But now they replaced it with the ukraine and monkeypox threads. It's all fear mongering and propaganda bullshit.
Bernd 2022-08-15 18:25:42 ⋅ 1y No. 217945
>>217942 >Luckily those threads became irrelevant after 2021 and anons started seeing through that shit yeah, every time i see those threads, they are getting spammed by ironic "2 more weeks" posts
Bernd 2023-06-15 19:13:26 ⋅ 5mn No. 275013
So i had a good day, when i suddenly stumbled on this shit. My first thought was, who is the author of this garbage and then i saw it. What a dumb shitsking nigger filth, who tought this monkey to talk!
Bernd 2023-06-15 19:25:41 ⋅ 5mn No. 275016
>>275015 Just you wait. And then i saw the other articles of this subhuman sheboon. Look at the dates. and thats not the most funny part, nooo...they funniest part is that they are PREMIUM. Seriously, they expect you to pay for the opportunity, to read the vomited turdspew of some brainded zoo-animal from Africa. Wanna pay for them, slovjak? Who knows, maybe you'll get great INSIGHTS from them.
Bernd 2023-06-15 19:26:55 ⋅ 5mn No. 275017
>>275016 I don't have to pay for them. I know she plagiarizes the same sources I read, most likely, just wraps them in a reddit friendly format. Anecdotal evidence btw: I've been seeing increased chink immigration last year here.
Bernd 2023-06-15 19:38:50 ⋅ 5mn No. 275019
>>275017 So its like a human centipede, where there are few sources who actually shit first and then later everyone eats their shit and produces their second-tier shit? Because non of the predictions of people you read pan out, but you are not deterred in eating from this shit-source. And what if sources of that shit are also not the original and they also eat someone's shit who shitted it earlier and maybe even those are not the originals shitters of anti-China garbage but also just devourers? What if you yourself eat not the first grade shit, but some sixth or even seventh grade shit?
Bernd 2023-06-15 19:46:42 ⋅ 5mn No. 275020
The state of affairs how it is in June 2023
Bernd 2023-06-18 07:44:33 ⋅ 5mn No. 275329
So what is the current ROTICOC for summer 2023? "reason of the inevitable collapse of China"? How is China going to collapse this time? What is the Chinobyl for the summer ? How conservatives in USA and us-suckers in Europe cope and lull themselves into slumber today?
Bernd 2023-07-01 19:54:42 ⋅ 5mn No. 276948
I've been saying it for years Americans are too pridefull to research properly
Bernd 2023-07-01 19:56:33 ⋅ 5mn No. 276951
>>276948 >Americans can't pronounce words in other news the sky is blue
Bernd 2023-07-01 20:06:57 ⋅ 5mn No. 276952
>>276951 its not just that. Gordon Chang has been invited into Ron Desantis campaign as the China expert. THE Gordon Chang. That guy who predicted that China would collapse in 2001 and was moving the goalpost yearly. The guy is dumb as a fucking rock, yet he is being promoted and moved up in political hierarchy because he says things Americans want to hear, Gordon Chang literally all he does is says: >Oh, American penisu is so biggu! Chinese penisu small, so small, collapsing into itself, Chinese balls are so fragiles and going to shatter soon and Chinese tiny pickle is falling off, yet American penisy is stronk and long and girthy slurpy-slurpy slurp, wow, such big American penisu, i want to suck it so machu! And Americans hear his mumbling and like: >This Chang is smart, we need to give him a raise and promote him, he is saying such profound wisdoms about China too, he also understands America and its adwantages over China. We need people like him.
Bernd 2023-07-01 20:14:46 ⋅ 5mn No. 276954
Bernd 2023-07-02 07:56:10 ⋅ 5mn No. 277002
>>276958 i'd like to be able to dismiss this desantis worm as just another worthless kike puppet, but unfortunatelly, he is relatively young for American politician, popular and is here to stay, to re-emerge in the future and bid again and again in the future presidential elections, unless he makes some stupid mistake in 2024 he will be 46 years old, in 2028 he will be 50 years old, in 2032 he will be 54 years old, in 2036 he will be 58 years old in 2040 he will be 62 years old in 2044 he will be 66 years old in 2048 he will be 70 years old in 2052 he will be 74 years old in 2056 he will be 78 years old in 2070 he will be 82 years old (with medicine of the future, he maybe really fit even in that age and later) And Biden is entering presidential race in his young 81 years olds next year. So go and think about it. Some of the slimy faggots that are present in modern US politics are going to haunt us for decades.
Bernd 2023-07-02 08:04:23 ⋅ 5mn No. 277003
Besides desantis there are three other republican retards that keep me WORRIED sometimes because of how dumb they are on China and Russia. Those are 1. Josh Hawley - 43 years old 2. Tom Cotton 46 years old 3. Ted Cruz 52 years old If any of those faggots becomes president, they may start a war with China. Not win it, but start it, and drug the whole world into a big big recession and trouble with crisis, millions of deaths and entire regions uninhabited, but filled with mines, murder-drones and chemical and radiation.
Bernd 2023-07-02 08:21:24 ⋅ 5mn No. 277004
>>277003 > they may start a war with China So that's ironic. You're always saying how dumb and unreal predictions for Russia/China by some Westerners who never lived there are. And now you decided to start making your own dumb and unreal predictions for the US without understanding a shit about their politics instead.
Bernd 2023-07-02 08:32:45 ⋅ 5mn No. 277005
>>277004 Atleast i can read English and i visited few Western countries in the past. i expressed curiosity and studied how American politics work, instead of just dismissing the study all-together out of arrogance, like many westerners do when it comes to studying Chinese governance. People who make predictions about China don't speak Chinese and never been to China, or studied China, their understanding of Chinese politics is just "Ebil dictator gives order, CCP drones follow, they also steal, teh end". Go and watch Josh Hawley sperg out about how China is evil because he went to a protest in Hong Kong. And now its probably the only thing he knows about China, he saw some rioters on the street, chaos, burning, angry students shouting something in language he doesn't understand, and clashing with HK police, and now its going to inform his understanding of the WHOLE China for decades and decades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrxAXbWBwS0 He is not going to study Chiense language or politcs, he is going to hire some guy like Gordon Chang, who is going to say to him what he wants to hear, like "American penis is so big, so BIG, Chinese penis small, they are going to collapse soon, American dick is gargantuan"
Bernd 2023-07-02 10:09:53 ⋅ 5mn No. 277013
>>277005 > studied how American politics work In Twitter I presume? > Ebil dictator gives order, CCP drones follow, they also steal, teh end Yeah, sounds pretty close to your understanding of American politics if you believe that the US may start a war with China because its president said some bs about China in the past. It's time for you to label yourself as an "independent collective wect expert" or something and go to Russian TV with your predictions as well now.
Bernd 2023-07-02 10:11:30 ⋅ 5mn No. 277014
>>277013 >> studied how American politics work >In Twitter I presume? Probably in the shill school lol I wonder if he knows American politics doesn't work the way poccnr propaganda believes >>277003 >If any of those faggots becomes president, they may start a war with China. Based! I'm sold on electing one of them now. >>277005 >He is not going to study Chiense language or politcs, he is going to hire some guy like Gordon Chang, who is going to say to him what he wants to hear, like "American penis is so big, so BIG, Chinese penis small, they are going to collapse soon, American dick is gargantuan" Fun fact: this is the real purpose of Hunter Biden dickpics leak.
Bernd 2023-07-05 14:57:28 ⋅ 5mn No. 277440
Vietnam banned Barbie movie over this it doesn't even have 9 dashes, you have to be insanely butthurt to ban movies for reasons like that. There is also no Russia on this map, should we ban it as well? Oh, wait, it is not showing in Russia anyway
Bernd 2023-07-07 04:03:53 ⋅ 5mn No. 277644
Bernd 2023-07-11 11:10:52 ⋅ 5mn No. 278276
Gordon Chang claims that Chinese millitary vampires are infiltrating the border of USA from Mexico to settle down as sleeping agents. This guy is the official advisor to governor DeSantis presidential campaign on foreign policy issues relating to China. Official anti-Chinese propaganda begins to resembe all the tropes of antisemitic propaganda of nazi parti - they also claimed that jews infiltrate everywhere, drink blood, eat children, control the world...And now the same tropes are projected on the Chinese on live American television on FOX news.
Bernd 2023-07-11 23:10:41 ⋅ 5mn No. 278375
Meanwhile on the China: Based Xi Jinping Thought absolutely OBLITERATES pigdog capitalists who tried to enrich themselves by charging exorbitant prices for construction projects they knew cannot finish! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-07-11/china-s-hidden-debt-problem-laid-bare-in-city-s-empty-housing-unfinished-roads
Bernd 2023-07-12 05:16:39 ⋅ 5mn No. 278393
>>278375 ah, its the famous Bloomber newspaper. nothing says honest and independent news source as the newspaper named after the oligarch) Bloomberg news, Trump news, Murdoch news, Bezos news - thats how the freedom of press looks like. Real grass And who even wrote this shit? Its a mystery they didn't even have the courage to put their name in the article.
Bernd 2023-07-18 12:58:44 ⋅ 4mn No. 279367
Much unexpected duo !
Bernd 2023-07-18 13:21:27 ⋅ 4mn No. 279369
Fugg, Chinese media is using Wojak faces more often)))
Bernd 2023-07-18 17:55:02 ⋅ 4mn No. 279393
>>278393 Oh, I read this one on actual Bloomberg News. Signed are James Mayger and Fran Wang.
Bernd 2023-08-09 11:30:52 ⋅ 4mn No. 282304
Welp, there goes Chinese economy >going into Japan 90s style deflation <already banned talking about it https://www.ft.com/content/150c0c9c-6182-4dd8-b330-be66a11d4226 lol, lmao even
Bernd 2023-08-13 11:26:06 ⋅ 3mn No. 282963
Now Biden started smoking the same garbage and adhering to china-collapsium ideology oh, and a new buzzword "Deflation!" same as Evergrande before, retards thing repeating this buuzzword like magic spell will magically remove China out of existance
Bernd 2023-08-13 13:30:36 ⋅ 3mn No. 282972
>>282963 I bet that senile cunt doesn't even know about Country Garden!
Bernd 2023-08-13 13:57:43 ⋅ 3mn No. 282978
>>282972 >Country Garden is that another evergrande? the most recent ROTICOC? Reason Of The Inevitable Collapse Of China? How hard are your twitter gurus masturbating thinking about it on X ? China actually is slowly dealing with these property giants, defusing them one after another like bombs and what you see as problems, are actually the process of demining the field, letting them tank, but not in a bust, but slowly and controllably. After a few of those giants go, there will be a more working system in place, without debt, more controlable and with smaller risk.
Bernd 2023-08-13 15:19:11 ⋅ 3mn No. 282984
>>282978 >don't worry, if you slowly disassemble your economy there is no catastrophe! >if they don't notice it deflating, we win! Dumbass event-based understanding of economy.
Bernd 2023-08-13 16:49:45 ⋅ 3mn No. 282996
>>282984 The property sector is not entirety of Chinese economy. China is known as the factory of the world, there is a lot of production. Right now China is getting real invested into New energy vehicles production. Automobile sector is pretty significant driver of economy, getting more and more percentage driver of Chinese GDP. do i need to explain why? Because fucking EVERYTHING in human monkey civilisation focuses on cars, even i with disgust realize that my work is focused on cars. i also see a lot of roads in third world countries and what types of vehicles are driving on those shitty roads, its part of my shitty job. So what i see is a lot of old cars, third world runs on very old Japanese and German cars. But soon every fucking third wolrd country will change its auto-park, everything will be replaced by Chinese cars. African roads, Asian roads, South American roads, European roads - all will be filled with Chinese cars running on them. And those cars will be produced with insane volumes and speeds. And here you are, can't see obvious shit, focusing on a few property parasites of the old economy. You westoids always analize China with 20 year lag, unable to see whats happening now, not realizing that China is fast changing, it never rests on its past achievments content with what it got.
Bernd 2023-08-13 19:17:00 ⋅ 3mn No. 283012
>>283006 eh, country garden is not the only property company in China. Again, your arguments stick only on the wall if the wall is in the head of low IQ retard who wants shit to believe in without going into boring and inconvinient details. Why do any real research when you can believe westoid flashy titles of newspapers, without actually doing any research? "Just read the news about China troubles and enjoy warm feeling in your tummy!" - this is the motto of every westoid China-collapse-expecter
Bernd 2023-08-16 09:07:53 ⋅ 3mn No. 283471
Imagine being Desantis - your polling data is falling, people lose enthusiasm in you and you think about how to envigorate your voters, increase your popularity - and you come to the bright idea >I know how to appeal to an average voter in struggling rural and urban America! I'll just blame China and talk about China all day long, making it my central point, because nothing motivates my voters and foreign policy issues! Who cares about vages, infrastructure, crime, prices - that all irrelevant, or rather consequential to how i adress the main problem - CHINA thig guy is a fucking idiot
Bernd 2023-08-16 10:10:09 ⋅ 3mn No. 283474
>>283471 idiot... or an asshole who tries to try that 'hey! i can fix that! X is conspiring against us simple as thaaaat!!!'
Bernd 2023-08-16 10:34:08 ⋅ 3mn No. 283482
>>283474 Americans becoming more and more insane with each year, some fringe theories already claim that China is behind that fires in Hawaii. For now its fringe, but every fringe theory is slowly creeping into the middle of discourse in demented USA. Every problem, every disfunctionality they blaim on China, because they can't admit of being wong, or mistaken or inefficient or having to have their intrinsic problem.
Bernd 2023-08-16 10:37:45 ⋅ 3mn No. 283484
The first Republican presidential primary debate will be on Aug. 23 We will see how many times the word "CHINA!" will be said during that debate. I might even buy a beer and take a sip every time Republican nominee and moderators will say "CHINA!". Probably 1 bottle wouldn't suffice, i need like 2-3 bottles.
Bernd 2023-08-16 12:33:00 ⋅ 3mn No. 283490
These guys drive America to war with China SHAME ON THEM SHAME!!!
Bernd 2023-08-16 13:39:06 ⋅ 3mn No. 283494
Bernd 2023-08-16 13:40:19 ⋅ 3mn No. 283495
>>283012 >country garden is not the only property company in China. Yeah, it's been a dozen or so like them already Seeing a pattern yet?
Bernd 2023-08-16 14:23:26 ⋅ 3mn No. 283499
>>283495 China's economy is big and complex organism. Where in one industry there is contraction, in other industries there is expansion, but Westoid brain cannot look at China as a whole, always focusing on those negative anecdotal examples, never doing research and thinking that one cherrypicked anecdote defines whole billion people country. You just can't imagine that OUTSIDE of one anecdote, outside of one company facing troubles there are millions companies who are doing fine and even great. Its also a problem of focus - how can one person analyze such a complex economy as Chinese one, with so many enterprises, companies and business going on? You can't, and also - there is no intrest. I said it before - Americans think they are superior to Chinese and dispise them so there is no curiosity to how Chinese live, and that curiosity is required for good faith research. Most Americans think that Chinese are subhuman bugs and with that mindset they don't want to research "the mingling of this subhuman filth", instead Americans looking for those anecdotal proof of their own supremacy in the form of Chinese failures, looking for proof that "those subhumans are failing and are about to meet their destined demise so that the RIGHTFULL order with us superior Westoids on top would prevail".
Bernd 2023-08-16 14:54:20 ⋅ 3mn No. 283503
>>283499 I still can't understand how in your head Westerners analysing Chinese politics is wrong, stupid and hilarious but you analysing American politics is right, correct and very smart.
Bernd 2023-08-16 15:07:51 ⋅ 3mn No. 283504
>>283503 Do you see me predicting collapse of USA, or some type of crisis, or economic woes? I refrain from making radical predictions about USA and i can be wrong of course, but you see - i can speak English, so i can read what Americans are talking, read discourse in ther political circles, scientific and political journals, opinions and propaganda pieces. American do not speak Chinese. Simple as. I already said it before, imagine that someone who DOESN'T speak English begins to analize American politics and economics, while being locked out of all the usefull literature and discourse on the topic. You'd think this person would be making wrong predictions and making a lot of faulty assumptions, because he would be build his assumptions only on material about USA that was translated into his mothertongue, while being locked out behind the language barrier from all the rest. But angloids think that they don't need to speak Chinese to understand China, and they live in echo-chamber of cherrypicked material that they picked out of the GIANT INFOFIELD OF CHINA, translated it into English and work with it, as if thise little translated material represents China, which is constantly changing. It doesn't, it simply doesn represent China. Its biases on top of biases that chase biases and feed other biases.
Bernd 2023-08-16 15:26:10 ⋅ 3mn No. 283505
>>283504 >i can read what Americans are talking You will probably never believe that, but even Google Translate can enable people to read what Chinese are talking. Of course they'll only read few Chinese sources they're interested in, but the same applies to you. This GIANT INFOFIELD exists only in your mind, the little material you find in your weird echo chamber doesn't represent the whole US. You're no less biased than these people are and as much confident in your cherrypicked material as they are. But they at least spread it over Twitter and some other stupid media I never read while you are doing it right here, please stop.
Bernd 2023-08-16 15:43:24 ⋅ 3mn No. 283508
>>283505 my thoughts are my own, i may be wrong as i said and i don't make drastic predictions. In fact this thread is against drastic predictions, look at the OP post that i made in 2022 where i laugh about pseudo-intellectuals like Jordan Petersen who doesn't speak Chinese and never been to China yet makes drastic predictions about China. And look at the dead links in the first posts of this thread - they are the testament to my point, the authors of those videos sought to hide or delete their retarded videos after a year. They were posting about how Evergrande is the end of China, and 2 years have passed, nothing happened. Then there was Covid-19 will be the death of China. Then there was ZERO Covid would be the death of China. Now they want to make people believe that Country Garden is the end of China. And they force meme words like deflation. Newsflash faggots - you can just print more money and deflation will disappear, but China deliberatelly is not doing so, i cannot know why but i trust that big brains at PBOC and NBS know what they are doing. They are a lot smarter than bunch of retards in the West. And why do you want me to stop? Don't want it - don't read it. I will continue thinking and posting.
Bernd 2023-08-16 21:45:46 ⋅ 3mn No. 283563
>>283508 I interact with Chinese industry as my customers at wörk and I lol at your wall of text
Bernd 2023-08-16 21:57:53 ⋅ 3mn No. 283566
Bernd 2023-08-18 17:54:02 ⋅ 3mn No. 283853
>be china >have a 5 year plan to be world #1 in electric vehicles >pump shitload of money into battery factories >make hot garbage that breaks / catches fire >china #1 >5 years later: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/ lol, lmao even
Bernd 2023-08-18 17:55:31 ⋅ 3mn No. 283854
>>283566 What do you mean? They're about to lockdown again to hide how their production is lagging and blame it on inevitability. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3231447/chinas-rising-covid-cases-and-new-variant-spark-concerns-about-third-wave Additional info: RMB has lost 15% relative to $ in the last year, yet China still has 5% deflation. You know what that means? China had to devalue RMB by 15% to avoid having 20% deflation. Chinese domestic economy is 20% down.
Bernd 2023-08-18 20:03:02 ⋅ 3mn No. 283880
>>283854 Just don't delete and don't edit out of existance this post, so we could laugh at it in a few months, a year, two years...the joke will become more funny with each year
Bernd 2023-08-19 00:42:28 ⋅ 3mn No. 283930
>>283880 Why would I, I'm right. You're in for a nasty surprise when you learn you can't delete your posts here after a certain time btw
Bernd 2023-08-19 01:21:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 283932
That said, it looks like the chinese real estate market lull is already taking the canadian bubble they have created down with it.
Bernd 2023-08-20 19:19:37 ⋅ 3mn No. 284132
>>283932 who the fuck cares about Canada these westoid degenerates have their own 1000 and 1 reason for expiriencing troubles which are unrelated to China ask Canadians about their laws and they will give you The Two-Thousand Yard Stare
Bernd 2023-08-20 19:21:01 ⋅ 3mn No. 284133
Bernd 2023-08-25 08:26:17 ⋅ 3mn No. 284808
>but this time its different!
Bernd 2023-08-25 11:58:50 ⋅ 3mn No. 284837
Long live the People's Republic death to western degeneracy
Bernd 2023-09-02 08:29:48 ⋅ 3mn No. 286044
TODAY ! On China collapsing drama.
Bernd 2023-09-02 08:46:21 ⋅ 3mn No. 286045
Here is the link to the LAST YEAR thread about China's incoming collapse. Just look at the pictures and thumbnails in that thread. https://krautchan.rip/int/219341
Bernd 2023-09-02 18:29:27 ⋅ 3mn No. 286087
Bernd 2023-09-02 18:38:02 ⋅ 3mn No. 286090
>>286087 >trying to analyze noise in fake metrics lol, lmao even
Bernd 2023-09-02 18:44:57 ⋅ 3mn No. 286092
>>286090 >reeee i don't like it so it must be fake! what a cope, lol
Bernd 2023-09-02 18:54:24 ⋅ 3mn No. 286093
sour-cube muzzle in vacuum imagine staking your whole career and centering your life on regurgitating the same cherrypicking and negativity-focusing in Russian court there is a special procedure called "linguistic analysis". Sometimes i wonder how many most used words they use in their videos and if we assign value to those words, for example Perfect = value 10 points, good = 7, normal = 5, ok = 0, bad = -2 , depressing =-3, horrible = -8, terrible =-9. What vallue would be in their videos as a sum? or rather a negative sum?
Bernd 2023-09-02 18:57:15 ⋅ 3mn No. 286094
Bernd 2023-09-02 19:03:29 ⋅ 3mn No. 286096
mantras and repeating lies don't manufacture reality anywhere outside your heads)))
Bernd 2023-09-02 19:10:21 ⋅ 3mn No. 286097
Its so funny to see how Americans care about Chinese youth and spread fake news about them, trying to find some problems with microscope. Meanwhile what happens with American youth? What does American youth doing? What are their problem? What are their day-to-day difficulties? What are the aspiration of American youth? Do they have Debt problem? Do they have crisis of confidence in their country and future prospect? NO ONE CARES ABOUT AMERICAN YOUTH, but go and see video about problems supposedly with youth in China.
Bernd 2023-09-02 19:13:24 ⋅ 3mn No. 286098
its ogre i'm sorry they convinced me with these original thumbnails
Bernd 2023-09-05 05:35:49 ⋅ 3mn No. 286486
Bernd 2023-09-05 09:00:20 ⋅ 3mn No. 286506
Bernd 2023-09-14 23:33:30 ⋅ 2mn No. 287835
>>148395 > who live in countries that predominantly post only bad biased things about China The criticism goes mainly against the CCP. After all, there's a difference between CCP and China. > why do they think they can be experts on China? There's a ton of interesting stuff on China on the internet. You don't have to go everywhere to be able to have an educated opinion about it.
Bernd 2023-09-19 10:14:55 ⋅ 2mn No. 288462
>>287835 >The criticism goes mainly against the CCP. After all, there's a difference between CCP and China. Thats not a very effective deflection tactic, because this facade, this sharade of pretending to care about Chinese falls very quickly if you start talking a little longer and then it always turns out that you actually DON'T differentiate between Chinese and Communist party of China and treat all the Chinese with racism and prejudice, doing maybe a little exception to 1 or 2 individual Asians of third generation in USA who claim to represent Chinese, while praising big American cock all day >Oh, American penisu is so biggu! Chinese penisu small, so small, collapsing into itself, Chinese balls are so fragiles and going to shatter soon and Chinese tiny pickle is falling off, yet American penisy is stronk and long and girthy slurpy-slurpy slurp, wow, such big American penisu, i want to suck it so machu! ANd only if those Asians say this, they are included in the group of "Good Chinese usefull fools" who can be paraded around as the examples how ALL BILLIONS of Chinese should behave to earn American support and sympathy
Bernd 2023-09-19 10:16:38 ⋅ 2mn No. 288463
He doesn't seem to be very happy maybe age is catching up to him and this bitch realizes that he is rotting on the inside and is going to die sooner, while China will still stand
Bernd 2023-09-20 16:58:30 ⋅ 2mn No. 288632
>>288513 >reading Zeihan You bought his book? ahahahahaha
Bernd 2023-09-22 11:12:56 ⋅ 2mn No. 288835
This video has 1million views, lol. I'll save multiple screencaps
Bernd 2023-09-22 11:26:47 ⋅ 2mn No. 288837
but whats really makes my heart fluttler like butterfly is this. Just reading the titles of those articles gives me a hard on. The work is happening, minds are dedicated, calculations and simulations performing, prototypes building, engineering problems are being solved. Its happening, China is going to the Moon. Like i want to see the day when China lands its citizens on the Moon, while Americans continue to screech in denial and insist that its all cannot be real, and its not real, its all fake and in reality China already collapsed years ago and they just hiding it, because it cannot be the other way around, because it just can't impossible error error do not compute error and smoke begins to flow from the exploding heads of americunts
Bernd 2023-09-22 11:43:23 ⋅ 2mn No. 288838
Bernd 2023-09-22 12:10:00 ⋅ 2mn No. 288842
>>288838 What's wrong with solar capacity when you have as much unused territory as China does? It's not like state funded or subsidised projects like these tell much about the economy though.
Bernd 2023-09-22 13:40:30 ⋅ 2mn No. 288847
>>288842 You can't just build solar farms in middle of nowhere with no infrastructure. And power transportation losses get pretty bad. Not to mention the power storage capacity you also need to build to use solar. It's a tech that only really pays off if you want to use power here and now. Which is not what you need for industry.
Bernd 2023-09-22 15:14:24 ⋅ 2mn No. 288855
>>288847 But they build industry in the middle of nowhere as well. So no power transportation needed.
Bernd 2023-09-22 15:57:55 ⋅ 2mn No. 288860
>>288838 Combination of words "Reading Zeihan" is a joke in and of itself, dummy. I know that you can find phonetic characters to fit the sound of the name and get second meaning.
Bernd 2023-09-22 16:04:39 ⋅ 2mn No. 288861
>>288838 Solar is still cool, very hard to destroy or block In case of war. Some facilities in mountains in China run on Solar only. China constantly increasing its share of solar, but also quality. Chinese companies control 80% of world solar production. It means that you can turn off China in case of war, they will always have power and can scale it drastically if needed. There is also huge possibility of using geothermal energy in China, because they started drilling very deep wells, searching for oil. They may not find a lot of oil, but energy of the deep, the heat - they can extract it, it's going to be big very soon.
Bernd 2023-09-27 19:42:54 ⋅ 2mn No. 289436
Bernd 2023-10-13 02:38:37 ⋅ 1mn No. 291087
Why would you care what Juden Peterstein has to say
Bernd 2023-10-14 17:21:24 ⋅ 1mn No. 291203
>>291087 He was relevant at some point and i ascribed relevancy to him out of habbit. And he used his relevancy a year ago to talk about shit he doesn't know anything about. As i said, it is incredibly strange and annoying when people who know nothing, suddenly think they can talk on the matter and use their percieved status as a justification for qualification on expertise in unrelated areas. Now in 2023 juden peterstein lost all traces of his credibility, of course but you could see in his past behaviour how he was collapsing himself, while predicting collapse of China.
Bernd 2023-10-14 17:36:45 ⋅ 1mn No. 291204
Since video in OP post was deleted, here is this video. Notice the name of the channel "JB motivations" and the name of the video "China will fail". So you supposed to be "motivated" by the predicted and percieved failure of "the other". Speaks volumes about westoid's psychology. Americans be living in shit, but at the same time scouring the interner for bad news and regurgitated, rehashed and repeated ROTICOC articles about China to get "motivated". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lmz94Oaxd0
Bernd 2023-10-18 14:53:48 ⋅ 1mn No. 291521
New tag for watching "The end of Chinese miracle". Implication is again, that Chinese success was just a fluke, coincedence, something strange but generally exception from the rule, and the rule implied is that "Chinese are subhumans, who live in dirt and should return in dirt where they belong once the fluke is over" https://www.yicaiglobal.com/news/chinas-gdp-growth-exceeds-expectations-at-49-in-third-quarter
Bernd 2023-10-19 07:42:37 ⋅ 1mn No. 291607
I guess, its oFFicial now With two F
Bernd 2023-10-19 15:22:59 ⋅ 1mn No. 291622
If I'd get a cent for every one of these "China is collapsing" propaganda videos and articles I'd be a millionaire already.
Bernd 2023-10-19 18:06:31 ⋅ 1mn No. 291631
i missed Jordan Petersen retweeting fetish porno scene as example of China bad
Bernd 2023-10-24 10:30:05 ⋅ 1mn No. 291929
Can i cash back?
Bernd 2023-10-24 10:36:23 ⋅ 1mn No. 291930
China has these things called shopping festivals and they spread all over the year, stimulating consumption in those hollidays. Americans for example have it at the peak of christmas and black friday, but China has more of those hollydays. Double 11 or Single's day is one of those, when it will happen, it will significantly boost the consumption, traveling and economy in general
Bernd 2023-10-24 12:12:02 ⋅ 1mn No. 291931
Bernd 2023-10-25 11:22:27 ⋅ 1mn No. 292015
Bernd 2023-10-25 11:29:27 ⋅ 1mn No. 292016
Somehow this pig still gets views
Bernd 2023-10-25 16:25:32 ⋅ 1mn No. 292030
>>292016 I wonder if China also have these type of channels against USA or the west in general. Do chinese think America is going to collapse soon?
Bernd 2023-10-25 21:14:41 ⋅ 1mn No. 292048
>>292030 maybe there are, Chinese internet is huge, there are every opinion represented there. Like ANY opinion no matter how fringe has some representation in Chinese internet, little group or corner with fans of this opinion. But we can't see it. Which is why many bad-faith faggots in the west exploit it, they find some fringe opinion on chinese internet and misrepresent it as prelevant for ALL Chinese and as the only one opinion. There are a lot of Russians who believe in collapse of USA of course, but i don't bring this shit here. I believe that USA is not going to collapse. Its like an old perverted man - usa can start going crazy, shit itself, smear shit all over itself, go poor, start kicking itself in the face, but it would still be alive, strong and dangerous. Look at North Korea - its in complete shit, but not collapsing. Same is about USA, it can degrade, degrade, loose sanity, loose braincells, loose money, loose influence, degrade, crumble, crumble, weaken, weaken, yet still stay strong and it would still be in one piece and will not collapse.
Bernd 2023-10-26 19:01:49 ⋅ 1mn No. 292114
Holy fuck, Hainan had 9% gdp growth. Soon it will be carrying the whole China into space fr fr
Bernd 2023-10-26 19:46:22 ⋅ 1mn No. 292120
>>292114 >the average of 5.2 percent Damn, US is going to overtake China's GDP growth rate soon https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-third-quarter-4-9-economic-growth/
Bernd 2023-10-26 19:57:09 ⋅ 1mn No. 292124
>>292120 nah, the joke of it all is that everyone dipped after covid and contraced, so everyone is comparing the growth not to some medium over the years, but to the dip of the past years. Even Hainan's growth is a joke in a way, because during covid the whole island lost its tourist industry due to lockdowns from outside and even Chinese themselves couldn't travel there from mainland due to heavy restrictions. So everyone is disingeneous about the growth right now. We need 5 years of stability to start measuring GDP growth dicks again
Bernd 2023-10-26 19:58:28 ⋅ 1mn No. 292125
>>292124 china cracked down his tech giants, it has now better privacy laws than US
Bernd 2023-10-26 21:08:59 ⋅ 1mn No. 292139
Bernd 2023-10-26 21:36:40 ⋅ 1mn No. 292144
>>292139 its not bad, i watched a few of his videos over the week. The last video that you see named "I had to leave China" is a clickbait. When he first uploaded it, he named it "Village where women have two husbands" but it had few views, so he decided to change the name to "I had to leave China" knowing that people would click on it, expecting some crazy story like in "Bald and corrupt" twist where Chinese government arrests him and throws him out of the country for showing too much of Tibet. And some idiots probably wouldn't even watch the last video, just imagining this scenario with "the arrest" in their head based on the name and smirk. Like you probably. How about you watch the whole series of videos?
Bernd 2023-10-26 21:57:50 ⋅ 1mn No. 292152
>>292048 I have been browsing Tieba, and some chinks are pro israel somehow, some even pro ukranian, these ones are accused of recolecting money from CIA somehow.. i think pro CCP chinks are a bit shizo. Btw i don't argue with them because i don't want to put some random chink in jail (knowing how strict is China in internet). The only secure form of talking with a chinese is with XMPP and omemo encryption.
Bernd 2023-10-26 22:06:25 ⋅ 1mn No. 292155
>>292152 see, you can find anything in Chinese internet to fit your expectations, find some echo chamber and cherrypick it as something you want it to be, and then label things you don't like as shizo. And you barely even scraped 0.000000000001% of Chinese internet but probably because its YOUR personal expirience you over-estimate its representation value and significance. There are groups in Chinese internet who discuss things and are not on weibo, in game chats for example, in rooms, in comment sections, in clouds that exist for few minutes and when they close, everything is deleted. Lots of different opinions, lots of secrets, some of them are forever closed from foreigners due to obscure cryptography and local memes as gateways
Bernd 2023-10-26 22:18:46 ⋅ 1mn No. 292158
>>292125 Not really, everything is collected by goverment, and let be honest, id rather have my data collected by a private corpo rather than the goverment.. There are no anonymous forums in China, every one requires to be surveiled by the state, atleast those are the rules, you need special permissons to host a website. https://blog.torguard.net/china-outlaws-anonymous-online-posting/ https://qz.com/1063073/in-china-you-now-have-to-provide-your-real-identity-if-you-want-to-comment-online "But muh west corpos do the same" Yes, but you can avoid it, in my country i can host a website withouth any problem, i can acces to tor, i2p, freenet and be more anonymous, a chinese cant. But i think most of chinese support censorship, they think that the GFW protects China from propaganda and withouth that, China would collapse due to misinformation.. the thing is, if the chinese are so inteligent as they claim, why they need a GFW to prevent their citizens from evil western propaganda, aren't they inteligent to know what is propaganda? My country didn't turn pro russia or pro china just because we didn't ban CGTN or RT. >>292155 >and then label things you don't like as shizo Claiming that every one that don't support palestine is someone who receives money to prompt propaganda is shizo, is like these democrats who claim that every republican on twitter were kremlin agents, remember? both cases are similar..
Bernd 2023-10-27 21:00:12 ⋅ 1mn No. 292266
Bernd 2023-10-27 22:05:14 ⋅ 1mn No. 292269
>>292266 >friendly this is such tired trick. When he was alive, they wouldn't tell a good word about him, same as they wouldn't say a single good word about any Chinese politician, pretending this is either hivemind or totalitarian noname-npc-pyramid where only Xi matters. They wouldn't tell a single good word about Li Keqiang or Qin Gang, or Jack Ma. But once they die or get arrested or get fired - they suddenly aquire the status of Named-NPCs who were actually good, and become used just to attack the main guy. Same about China's past. These fucking faggots reminis with nostalgia about times when China was poor and weak, only because back then they could play roles of White monkeys, who get payed and kissed in the ass for being foreigner, or when they tell about how they miss old Hong Kong when local Chinese were just cleaning their boots. THis is the preffered hierarchy and state of things for those westoids, and they get frustrated that China is no longer kissing their ass and acts "uppity".
Bernd 2023-10-28 06:45:10 ⋅ 1mn No. 292302
slovjak be really eating this garbage for years and not notice a pattern
Bernd 2023-10-28 10:56:41 ⋅ 1mn No. 292307
Why are you so obsessed with China, really? Literally for any country in the world you can find some noname bullshit spreaders since there's always some target audience of listeners.
Bernd 2023-10-28 11:38:48 ⋅ 1mn No. 292308
>>292307 i am obsessed? I think everyone in the West is obsessed with China. They do NOT want to learn about China, but they are obsessed with narrating and commenting on China and setting up the narrative on how Chinese actions MUST be viewed and percieved. So imagine a scene - a ballet dancer who is dancing on the stage, this dancer is China, but in the audience there are 100 people who watch a dancer perform a dance, and they are commenting with >He is falling! >He shit his pants, look at how he is moving! >does he have a boner? i saw something in his pants, I bet he is thinking about children, PEDO!!! >he slipped! >does he have autism, whats with this waving... >he is not doing any productive work, moving like crazy there >fuck, this is boring! >my dad with Parkinson's was moving the same before he died >Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? >This isn't art, it's just silly movements. >Just stand still already! >Are you okay? Do you need medical attention? >Why are you flailing around like that? >You have zero talent, just quit already! Western press and media are like those 100 people who don't understand what dancing means, they don't want to see dances, they just want to comment and heckle like a bunch of agressive hicks. And they are setting up the narrative, because soon everyone who enters the hall, begins to repeat their silly shouts and cries, instead of actually looking at the dancer and understanding whats actually happening.
Bernd 2023-10-28 15:45:14 ⋅ 1mn No. 292318
>>292308 For years of reading (mostly) western media I never noticed anything like this so your "everyone" is clearly a very small number of sources. I also never noticed this while speaking to the real people (both westerners and not) so it's clear these sources have quite small number of listeners, basically a handful of haters who want to keep their hate going. And as I said, the haters exist for any country and nation in the world. They all have their own reasons for their obsession so I just wonder what is yours.
Bernd 2023-10-28 22:50:43 ⋅ 1mn No. 292360
Bernd 2023-10-28 22:59:51 ⋅ 1mn No. 292361
>>292360 is your troll factory hiring? what is the hourly wage?
Bernd 2023-10-29 11:04:15 ⋅ 1mn No. 292387
Almost 10 years since this video got published. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLCvdd-YUc
Bernd 2023-10-29 14:26:36 ⋅ 1mn No. 292388
>>292387 For those who don't watch, we see here his predictions of Reasons for collapse of China "2014 edition" - smog, ecology bad! - separatists, islamists will rise up! - deserts, dry steppe, no agriculture! They can't feed themselves, famine soon! - not enough forests and wood! - rise of Christians and churches who will overthrow communists! As we see, lots of those old predictions outdated because Chinese central government took care of those issues. And look at the comments under this video. Seems like faggots come there like pilgramage every now and then when they consume a dose of lies about China's collapse and prematurely congratulate Styx but their own posts just add to the irony and joke
Bernd 2023-10-31 19:14:02 ⋅ 1mn No. 292581
>As you see this is certainly means incoming collapse and economic problems for China, they are being isolated by the WHOLE WORLD and have been put into a corner, forced to play by the rules lectured to them, as if they are just petulant children, who got wealthy on the backs and graces of smart white superior Americans who simply wanted their goods and generously allowed commies to grow into this monster, but NOW...now the justice will be done, their sand castles and their shitty fake concrete buildings will collapse and chickens come home to roost... or rather not - no chicken for China! They will have no food ahahahaha total chaos, economic destruction and famine for chinkoids!
Bernd 2023-11-01 08:16:41 ⋅ 1mn No. 292637
What do they know about that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzXU1bieQYM
Bernd 2023-11-01 08:25:07 ⋅ 1mn No. 292638
Bernd 2023-11-01 08:31:27 ⋅ 1mn No. 292639
Bernd 2023-11-02 06:48:45 ⋅ 1mn No. 292708
The article from yesterday about how bad things are in China is using... a picture from 2017. And nowhere mentions the date, as if presenting it as some fresh material relevant to today's time. When you see pictures about ruin or homelessness in China - always do reverse image search to find out the date and in how many anti-Chinese articles the same rehashed images are used.
Bernd 2023-11-02 06:57:28 ⋅ 1mn No. 292709
many such cases
Bernd 2023-11-02 12:56:57 ⋅ 1mn No. 292721
gigacope video below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P95NFlAnmY As Americans will be losing on all fronts, they won't admit to their loss and instead try to rationalize it
Bernd 2023-11-05 18:34:24 ⋅ 1mn No. 293019
Bernd 2023-11-07 19:03:10 ⋅ 1mn No. 293114
Bernd 2023-11-08 12:27:03 ⋅ 1mn No. 293157
de-decoupling wait, did i stutter?
Bernd 2023-11-08 12:32:39 ⋅ 1mn No. 293159
anyways, back to our usual programming
Bernd 2023-11-08 12:37:14 ⋅ 1mn No. 293160
Bernd 2023-11-08 12:42:28 ⋅ 1mn No. 293161
Bernd 2023-11-08 12:45:53 ⋅ 1mn No. 293162
entire sector of useless chinese race trating women who just recite talking points from china watchers you can always check on one of those bitches and see whats on the current agenda peddling in think tank hugbox of sexpats and retards
Bernd 2023-11-08 22:28:42 ⋅ 1mn No. 293199
Bernd 2023-11-08 22:53:08 ⋅ 1mn No. 293200
>>293199 it happened before, and then there was a sharp rise its as if there is some cyclicity to it, that makes you go hmm... maybe now when USA is in turmoil supporting the middle eastern war and destabilization of arab world, betting everything on jews, while at home there are two retards contending for presidential election, both old and corupt - maybe on this background investors will look at China as the safe heaven amongst madness. And then you won't believe the new data sets)
Bernd 2023-11-09 00:22:43 ⋅ 1mn No. 293201
>>293200 "since 1998"? I wonder what happened then... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis
Bernd 2023-11-09 08:04:45 ⋅ 1mn No. 293210
>>293201 China was a weaker country back then. In the past 100 billion $ were important for China, and now they are throwing that ammount of money at Belt and Road each year. Again, you need to put things into perspective and understand that China is rapidly changing, some standard or measure from 10 years ago quickly becomes irrelevant because of the insane modernisation speed of China, like a different country each decade. People in the West don't understand that, i often seen how in the debates they could pull some statistics from China of 2010 and think its some valid argument about modern China. Also, a lot of sites just don't update articles about China with new statistics, i've seen articles on Wikipedia where data about Chinese numbers in economics gets cut off in 2014 and no one is updating those articles.
Bernd 2023-11-09 08:09:10 ⋅ 1mn No. 293211
Also, FDI in Russia also was falling in the past in the negative zone and then would get back and growing in 2008 after Georgia in 2014 after Crimea in 2022 after Ukraine but you see patern that country doesn't collapse because of it and then FDI returns into the growth territory
Bernd 2023-11-10 06:29:35 ⋅ 4w No. 293273
>pork cheap? cry deflation and economic troubles >pork expensive? cry inflation and famine
Bernd 2023-11-10 08:13:07 ⋅ 4w No. 293276
this robotic factory is tense but it shows that shrinking population won't be a problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLx8ymnBR8
Bernd 2023-11-10 08:23:26 ⋅ 4w No. 293277
Also i can't understand how foreign investment in China can be negative, if they have new foreign factories being built inside again and again Like wouldn't that qualify as investment, where would the money for megafactory come from?
Bernd 2023-11-15 07:23:36 ⋅ 3w No. 293576
each day we getting closer to collapse
Bernd 2023-11-15 15:49:40 ⋅ 3w No. 293584
>>293277 It means more people are pulling out than investing.
Bernd 2023-11-15 16:40:22 ⋅ 3w No. 293587
>>293584 maybe its not just china problem everything looks clearer in perspective
Bernd 2023-11-15 16:42:31 ⋅ 3w No. 293588
yeah...perspective is a funny word
Bernd 2023-11-16 09:06:03 ⋅ 3w No. 293619
Xiaomi going big i remember dystopian cuberpunk stories, and Xiaomi with its sprawling tech expertise is growing to be one of those all-competent corporations from cyberpunk. They dabble in all kinds of staff, i imagine how colorfull and conflicting the conferences at the corporation meetings must be, how hard it is to balance budget between different branches who all want money, compete with each other for attention of CEO, bandwith, production capability, how effective managers promise to make everything more effective if they "merge" different initiatives and how other managers object to the intrusion into their sphere of influence. This shit must be wild, but its all invisible. We only see results, but it must be epic action under the cover, maybe some day they will write books about it, same as about Apple.
Bernd 2023-11-16 09:14:17 ⋅ 3w No. 293620
but who cares about the production and high tech
Bernd 2023-11-17 21:59:55 ⋅ 3w No. 293709
Things must be really bad in China. Recently their "opinion survey" (lol) results started showing an unexplainable move towards people suddenly liking America. Now they are begging Americans to come fuck their women.
Bernd 2023-11-17 22:05:51 ⋅ 3w No. 293710
>>293709 You can interpret it however you like, twisting facts to your wishes
Bernd 2023-11-20 05:55:10 ⋅ 2w No. 293957
i noticed that the goalpost shifting includes arbitrary choice of economic metrics to demonstrate economic dominance and health this summer we learned that if you have a lot of youth unemployment - its over for you(somehow nothing happened) now we learn that its the SHARE of global GDP that is important, and if your share drops - its over for you (but it can happen not because your coutnry falls, but beacuse other countries rise, like India)
Bernd 2023-11-22 12:03:56 ⋅ 2w No. 294175
where are the millions of views? what happened to China collapse videos?? he even made the thumbnail with xjp walking down the red rope into collapse - and yet no views????
Bernd 2023-11-22 12:07:46 ⋅ 2w No. 294176
meanwhile local provincial governments that before were investing in construction, now investing in automobile factories competition is going to be fierce, but there are so many upstream and downstream industries around car manufacturing, its going to re-vitilize the economy and employ a lot of people on high paid jobs
Bernd 2023-11-22 12:44:36 ⋅ 2w No. 294180
China creates wealth VS. Americans making scam and vapor
Bernd 2023-11-22 18:29:10 ⋅ 2w No. 294216
>>294180 America still creates wealth, why do you spread misinformation and rumours ?
Bernd 2023-11-22 18:58:46 ⋅ 2w No. 294221
>>294216 sure, but i rarely see leaders of corporations of China on cover of Forbes) maybe they showed jack ma once hehehe and yet they place clowns like that on top of pedestal
Bernd 2023-11-22 20:07:06 ⋅ 2w No. 294225
>>294176 Oh So that's where the money for the projects we do for China lately comes from.
Bernd 2023-11-23 13:38:41 ⋅ 2w No. 294273
With each day, it's more over for China. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-wealth-manager-zhongzhi-flags-insolvency-liabilities-64-bln-2023-11-23/ >BEIJING, Nov 23 (Reuters) - China's Zhongzhi Enterprise Group, a leading wealth manager, told investors it is heavily insolvent with up to $64 billion in liabilities, threatening to reignite concerns that the country's property debt crisis is spilling over into the broader financial sector. >The firm, which has sizable exposure to China's real estate sector, apologised to its investors in a letter that said it had total liabilities of about 420 billion yuan ($58 billion) to 460 billion yuan ($64 billion). >The liabilities compared to Zhongzhi's estimated total assets of about 200 billion yuan, according to the letter, which was issued on Wednesday and was seen by Reuters.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:04:50 ⋅ 2w No. 294278
>>294273 why you clinging to these new firms, why you already forgot evergrange, forgot about some property bank in henan, forgot about country garden? What makes you not realize that this new thing is going to be solved same as countless others, resulting in no over, and with you forgetting about it to cling to the next new thing? You know the definition of insanity? Its doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting diffeent results its the theme of this thread for over 2 years - ROTICOC >>148413 R- Reason O - Of T - The I - Inevitable C - Collapse O - Of C - China ROTICOC ! You are completelly delusional and can't learn on the mistakes, just repeating and repeating the same cicle of new ROTICOC hype untill the next ROTICOC comes.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:15:52 ⋅ 2w No. 294280
>>294278 >why you clinging to these new firms, why you already forgot evergrange, forgot about some property bank in henan, forgot about country garden? uhh if it were once, that'd be anecdote, chance when it keeps happening, that's a pattern, a real economic crisis
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:16:30 ⋅ 2w No. 294281
Also - i was re-reading old posts from this thread and looked at the picture in this post >>149585 and noticed something, how this sleazeball was defending Michael Spavor, but recently it was revealed that this faggot Spavor WAS SPYING on behalf of Canada and China was indeed holding him for a reason, after Canada arested Weng. Do you think this faggot will delete his video or just leave it be, just because he can get ad revenue and continue spreading hatred towards China?
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:18:03 ⋅ 2w No. 294282
>>294281 lol but yea, in a police state, every independent self informationing is considered "spying"
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:20:04 ⋅ 2w No. 294283
>>294282 of course they are going to deny it or play semantics game, but if the guy confesses, i believe the guy and not the government who would never admit their spying operations.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:22:32 ⋅ 2w No. 294284
>>294280 Its not a pattern, its your perception of pattern manufactured in your head by Western media that cherrypicks individual economic cases from an economy of 1.3 billion people where some companies expirience problems, some rise up, but you only read about expiriencing problems, having a tunnel vission only on the negatives. And seems like you still not figured it out after years and years, i said it before, you have very low IQ, target demographic IQ of Western media.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:26:19 ⋅ 2w No. 294285
>>294283 Uh? The accusation and implication is, "I was collateral damage because of you", it's clear >>294284 Yeah, the problem is, all the economic indicators are looking bad as well. >>293199 And the political indicators. >>293709 Literally everything is confirming that China is deeply fucked. Fyi, I am also nooticing based on the state of projects we are doing for Chinese customers. Sadly can't disclose more.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:34:24 ⋅ 2w No. 294287
>>294285 Nah, read about Spavor's allegations from more sources, he was asked by Kovrig to take millitary photos. Photos of millitary objects IN NORTH KOREA. He pretends he didn't know the reason, lol. Playing dumb about such sorts of things doesn't really work. One guy simply took the banner in hotel in North Korea and was detained. But he tries to feint ignorance about taking photos of millitary objects in North Korea for Kovrig. And he continued to provide Kovrig with information after traveling to China. Kovrig has a lot of credentials linking him to Canadian government, he was a diplomatic officer at the Global Security Reporting Program (GSRP) within the Canadian embassy in Beijing, and later when based in Hong Kong at International Crisis Group. Its all obvious cover for spy work, no matter how Canadian government clumsily tries to deny it after Spavor himself came out with his words. He wants Canadian government either to admit they used him as a spy, or pay him compensation for their stupid cover story.
Bernd 2023-11-23 17:44:20 ⋅ 2w No. 294288
>>294285 >Literally everything is confirming that China is deeply fucked. Fucked is in the eye of the beholder. I think China will reach its GDP growth target for this year. Some companies will expirience problems, but in healthy economies some companies fall, some companies rise in their place, like a natural order. If a person inside of a train stumbles, the train doesn't notice and continue chugging ahead, carrying the person who stumbled with it. But i don't expect you to understand it. Maybe you stucked in your mental state and this thread will continue for 5 years from now, with you continuing gobbling up new ROTICOCs from mainstream western media-propaganda each year, bringing them into this thread like a happy dog brings a stick, wagging your tail, thinking that this time its different, but unable to remember that you were in the same position already in the past. Maybe you will atleast learn 10 new Chinese words if the companies will be named in Chinese and the names of those companies for some time will be ringing in your head with a promise of collapse, untill a new name appears and you forget the previous name, and the new company name or some new "problem" is ringing in your head as some ultimate solution to "China problem" for another half a year.
Bernd 2023-11-23 18:28:42 ⋅ 2w No. 294293
>>294288 China literally has lower GDP growth than US at this point. Lol.
Bernd 2023-11-23 18:42:36 ⋅ 2w No. 294295
>>294293 doubt it besides, we are in for an election year in USA in 2024, with all of its hijinks. I am not claiming that USA will collapse, but it will expirience a volley of economic and political crisises next year, that will not be conducive for stable economic growth Meanwhile i predict that China will be stable, predictable and lucrative in comparison.
Bernd 2023-11-23 20:50:18 ⋅ 2w No. 294304
but maybe i am too optimistic saying about 5 years of this thread 战争 could happen sooner, maybe even 世界大战 then all of this will be irrelevant
Bernd 2023-11-25 13:57:02 ⋅ 1w No. 294523
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Bernd 2023-11-25 14:01:28 ⋅ 1w No. 294526
this is like a slice of culture of china-hatred, zeitgeist in screencap
Bernd 2023-11-25 14:09:12 ⋅ 1w No. 294528
Bernd 2023-11-29 20:23:55 ⋅ 1w No. 294864
oh lol i still hear people in the West saying that oil blockade by USA could be the death of China, because without oil their industry would stop meanwhile half of the country is switching to gas(transported from Russia) and solar (free from the Sun)
Bernd 2023-12-01 23:06:54 ⋅ 1w No. 295091
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