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IM COMMUNIST

Brazil Bernd 2022-12-19 23:55:55 ⋅ 3mn
No. 244406

Noob asking for Book

Switzerland Bernd 2022-07-13 17:15:13 ⋅ 8mn
No. 197719
I want to read into communism as I have a big knowledge gap regarding it. I'm not solely interested in Communist theory, but even more so in a comparison of actual Socialist/Communist societies past and present*. How these societies transformed to Socialism/Communism, how the standard of living changed, and how Socialism/Communism perished again. Did the people stood behind their possibly authoritarian government? It's very important that the author(s) analyze this from an unbiased point of view and analyze unbiased primary sources. Can you recommend a good book? *From my noob perspective, "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" is Socialism just in name.. In the state controlled sector of economy, do the workers actually own the means of production?
United States Bernd 2022-08-09 20:40:55 ⋅ 7mn No. 213641
>I'm not solely interested in Communist theory, but even more so in a comparison of actual Socialist/Communist societies past and present*. How these societies transformed to Socialism/Communism, how the standard of living changed, and how Socialism/Communism perished again The idea is to establish a Dictatorship of the Proletariat that would raise living standards enough and also use government influence to resolve class contradictions to dissolve the state. Socialism/communism arose in poor countries where the ruling class completely aliennated everyone besides themselves in power. The people stood by communism in places where it rose organically like in Russia or China I think Parentti has books about it
Moscow Bernd 2022-10-23 22:41:02 ⋅ 5mn No. 235255
There aren't many societies to write about. The Paris Commune lasted too little and Marx himself covered it in "The Civil War in France". On history of the Soviet Union prior to like 1940s "The History of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks): Short Course" is a good read – bolsheviks had to analyze their history to keep on rolling. I have to mention that even in the USSR, if we take the criteria for Socialism from "The Critique of the Gotha Programme" – "single-mode" economy with no kolkhozes or other kinds of even collective private property and moneyless product exchange inside the country with the dictatorship of the proletariat –, Socialism was not achieved. After 1953 things go bullshit. I can send links to some materials my buddies have made on the class struggle, economy and politics in the USSR, but they are in Russian yet. In general, go read Marx and Engels first, then go for Lenin's and Stalin's works, they're good, just don't buy the Plekhanov's bullshit about "Marxist philosophy" – Marxism is a science.
Moscow Bernd 2022-10-23 22:50:25 ⋅ 5mn No. 235257
Oh, fuck I also forgot to mention Enver Hoxha, good stuff for that time
Turkey Bernd 2022-10-23 22:53:25 ⋅ 5mn No. 235260
They're all biased, the only way is to start with Lenin and go as deep as you want.

Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 12:43:52 ⋅ 1y No. 119878
Is Socialism with Chinese characteristics the way of the future?
United States Bernd 2022-08-21 12:16:24 ⋅ 7mn No. 219335
>>185042 He was right.
United States Bernd 2022-08-27 15:09:59 ⋅ 7mn No. 220563
>>220561 That CCP is burning propaganda money even on this dead beat chan is both impressive and pathetic at the same time. Get your CCP up your ass.
Slovenia Bernd 2022-08-27 15:40:15 ⋅ 7mn No. 220581
>>220561 Exactly. Given that it is clear that China's shitholeness is a direct result of horrendous quality of its people, and that it is spilling over and destroying the entire world, the only way out is indeed a complete genocide of genetic scum called H*n. Everyone of quality has already fled to Taiwan 70 years ago, anyway.
Texas Bernd 2022-10-08 05:16:47 ⋅ 5mn No. 230554
>>119878 Yes,

https://frenschan.org/

France Bernd 2022-08-26 06:12:49 ⋅ 7mn
No. 220399
https://frenschan.org/
Uruguay Bernd 2022-10-02 01:19:01 ⋅ 5mn No. 228801
>>220399 PECADOR CONTEMPLA TU DÍA FINAL

Communist AMA

Puerto Rico Bernd 2022-10-01 05:39:24 ⋅ 5mn
No. 228591
I unironically believe in communism (I'm a third worldist).
Germany Bernd 2022-10-01 07:59:55 ⋅ 5mn No. 228605
Communism is only as good as the community that adpots it. Unfortunatley most people are shit though, so communism always fails.
Puerto Rico Bernd 2022-10-01 14:43:42 ⋅ 5mn No. 228636
>>228605 Nah, people are only as good as the material conditions allow them to be. It's not a matter of making people "good" first, communism second, but the other way around. https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1936/revbet/

United States Bernd 2022-05-10 03:02:26 ⋅ 10mn No. 148103
YES SIR
Mexico Bernd 2022-06-02 06:32:45 ⋅ 9mn No. 156431
>>148103 Awesome.
United States Bernd 2022-08-21 12:17:58 ⋅ 7mn No. 219336
Newfags sissies barely read a book or are interested in history. This generation is shit.
Netherlands Bernd 2022-08-21 12:36:51 ⋅ 7mn No. 219338
>>219336 Any generation was like this. This one just got a voice.
Germany Bernd 2022-08-21 13:10:18 ⋅ 7mn No. 219339
I doubt most Americans understand what this truly means. In america everything that means that you don't starve or die if you get a serious sickness or lose your job is communism.

United States Bernd 2022-08-06 04:18:05 ⋅ 7mn No. 210698
But whut abiut me CHE CHE
Spain Bernd 2022-08-06 08:26:42 ⋅ 7mn No. 210720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6tcI9_KpZU

Stalin was bad

United States Bernd 2021-01-19 00:16:49 ⋅ 2y
No. 107675
Praise Yeltsin :DDD
Turkey Bernd 2021-01-19 15:31:16 ⋅ 2y No. 107700
He can only be praised for restoration of feudalism in russia.
Bavaria Bernd 2021-03-23 14:32:47 ⋅ 2y No. 112536
Both were bad lol
Russia Bernd 2022-07-25 20:41:49 ⋅ 8mn No. 202461
if Stalin was bad then how come Generalissimo so swoll and jacked? check and mate capitalists!!!
Switzerland Bernd 2022-07-27 13:23:19 ⋅ 8mn No. 203521
>>202461 What is the consensus among the majority of Russians on Stalin's rule? I remember reading something around the lines of Natalia Poklonskaya praising Stalin, but what do most Russians think about it?

United States Bernd 2021-06-25 08:08:27 ⋅ 1y No. 116578
Corporatism = bad
Netherlands Bernd 2021-06-25 16:08:12 ⋅ 1y No. 116598
>>116578 Israel = US colonialism in middle east
Turkey Bernd 2021-06-25 20:00:37 ⋅ 1y No. 116608
>>116596 But they already are
Norway Bernd 2021-06-26 08:29:52 ⋅ 1y No. 116638
>>116608 Not enough
Mexico Bernd 2022-06-02 06:32:04 ⋅ 9mn No. 156430
>>116638 9 million starvation deaths a year is not enough? How much is enough?

Thoughts on leftypol?

California Bernd 2021-09-08 17:54:47 ⋅ 1y
No. 122372
(I'm not a leftypol user, but did went there once just for the flags) (I'm a pol user but I go there for the lulz and shits and giggles) So yeah just to start off with that, but I feel like you people would shit on it
New Zealand Bernd 2021-09-09 00:23:05 ⋅ 1y No. 122393
Both are authoritarian and share more overlap than they wish to accept.
Finland Bernd 2021-09-09 08:30:53 ⋅ 1y No. 122406
>>122393 Well hasn't leftypol been just a culture reversal of pol from the start
New Zealand Bernd 2021-09-09 09:37:28 ⋅ 1y No. 122407
>>122406 Yes. From 8kanker they always had sour grapes about /pol/ controlling the spotlight but I think some of them are okay. I've browsed their board a bit, there's some decent content on it. Mods are very ban happy. Their memetics are very shallow and lend their ideas to mirroring a lot of ideas /pol/ created through idiocy or pure shenanigans, but their idea of fun involves an abundance of words and generally over constructed ideas. I met a tranng irl that thought everything should be filed through a marxist lens. It really bothered me. We're defiling ideas to inspire zero new creations, only stagnated old world thought to apply to modern problems because lolmarxsaidso.
Slovenia Bernd 2021-09-09 11:07:00 ⋅ 1y No. 122414
/leftypol/ imo was I've been on 8chan /pol/ in september 2014 (yes even before the full goobergate ban on 4chan) and it was a surprisingly balanced group of fringes – lolberts, dork enlightenment, stormfags, and eventual /leftypol/ were pretty balanced. Were it not for that month, I would probably never have taken up posting on 8chan, and the insufferable avatar known as "slovborg" that developed on 8chan's /int/ board would not exist today. I would merely be another lurker that occasionally effortpoasts. Dork enlightenment got bullied off by low effort shitposting, and /leftypol/ surrendered and decided they want to have a safespace where their views can't be challenged. This was the turning point that cemented the political fate of 8/pol/. December mod selection which turned everything into a railroaded astroturf was just the final nail in the coffin. This is why I have a strongly negative opinion of /leftypol/. Their surrender and retreat into a safespace spelled the downfall of 8chan (and myself).