Bernd
2024-10-29 21:43:05 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325127
Two of the most interesting civil wars in history were wars between the city and the village, and both times the city was victorious, giving a good spanking to retarded rural animals.
Now I realized that any civil war is a war between the village and the city, and both Russian and American civil wars were genocides of the stupid part of the population. Village only breeds stupidity and poor taste unless it's guided by the city.
Sometimes the village wins, like in Spain.
This is a new concept by me, you heard it here first.
Bernd
2024-10-29 23:31:17 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325129
Specific example, please I never heard of village vs city
Bernd
2024-10-29 23:55:44 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325130
>>325129
South is the land of yokels/White guard movement was localized in the land of yokels, even if there are "cities" in those areas, they are not real cities, they're just big villages. So it's always a war of villagers vs city slickers in gucci loafers.
Bernd
2024-10-30 03:18:33 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325140
>>325127
> any civil war is a war between the village and the city
Yes, kind of. **Except for some third world civil wars where most participants do not represent any local population.**
> stupid part of the population
If the "smart" part has to resort to genocide it ain't smart.
> Village only breeds stupidity and poor taste
I don't think that's always true. As you noted cities bred communism, and other radical shit also usually comes from the cities, not the villages.
Bernd
2024-10-30 08:29:47 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325151
Huh? Russian civil war was exactly opposite, crapitalists got fcked by literal villagers. It was a class war.
American civil war just a fight for power between crapitalists. I doubt your theory can even be applied to that case.
>>325140
Cities bred communism? Huh again? First communist state which is ussr was 90% villagers.
Bernd
2024-10-30 10:46:50 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325159
>>325151
> Huh? Russian civil war was exactly opposite, crapitalists got fcked by literal villagers. It was a class war.
BO, pls. The Reds were led by city slicker intellectuals/factory intelligentsia, the Whites were led by landlords. Both parties would always use yokels but it's the leadership that shapes urban/rural nature of a movement. Same goes to American CW: progressive city slickers lead northerners, both city workers and rural yokels into fight with a landlord mobement.
Bernd
2024-10-30 19:53:35 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325228
>wars between the city and the village
I like this simplification. Or essentialization perhaps.
>>325151
>It was a class war.
Lolno. No "class war" was ever fought in history.
>>325159
>The Reds were led by city slicker intellectuals/factory intelligentsia
>the Whites were led by landlords.
Russia had a large mass of peasantry and a comparatively small group of workers (they were a lot, but if we compare their ratio to peasantry they were relatively small group). The civil war was essentially a war between your "factory intelligentsia" and "landlords", who fought for the power over the mass of peasantry by making the peasants kill each other **ie. the average soldier on both sides was a peasant**.
**Btw the Soviet forced industrialization was also an effort to destroy peasantry as much as possible and make workers out of them, communists hate peasants, because they can be self-sufficient, but workers are dependent on the services the state provides. Same with cities. Urbanites can be choked by cutting basic services - stopping food, water, electricity, heating - therefor easier to keep in check. Funny consequence was the dacha system where workers had to do agricultural work on the weekend so they can maintain a bare minimum of living standards.**
Bernd
2024-10-30 19:56:00 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325229
But now that I'm at the topic **capitalists also hate peasantry for the same reason. You can't sell shit to people who can produce everything or most what they need. Capitalists also want workers who produce crap and consume it.**
Bernd
2024-10-31 07:09:30 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325267
Now that I'm thinking of it. The "holodomor" was also part of the war on peasantry. It wasn't a Ukrainian genocide, like 3mil plus people died besides the Ukrainians, but a "genocide" of the peasantry.
Bernd
2024-10-31 08:53:49 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325269
>>325228
>Btw the Soviet forced industrialization was also an effort to destroy peasantry as much as possible and make workers out of them, communists hate peasants.
Top kek. Do you realize how ridicilous this sounds?
Industrialization is a natural step towards progress.
Bernd
2024-10-31 09:17:28 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325271
>>325269
The city forces the village into an industrial economy, which basically means that the city forced the village to comply with its economic model. This is progress, but a forced one.
Bernd
2024-10-31 22:19:41 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325391
>>325269
You are a retard. The Soviet Union executed a forced industrialization to build up heavy industry (they forced all the occupied Eastern Euro countries to do the same after WWII). It has nothing to do with industrialization **like how the production of wealth moves from agriculture to industry, then from industry to services in modern society** itself.
Bernd
2024-10-31 23:27:36 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325400
>>325391
What’s the benefit of insulting him?
Bernd
2024-10-31 23:30:52 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325402
Bernd
2024-11-01 03:38:51 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325412
>>325402
>Forced progress is an oxymoron
Its dont, because sometimes you lag behind and need to catch up. Catching up is not a natural process. The need to catch up develops for objective reasons, but the events that lead to "catching up" are often forced with commanded violence against yokels.
Bernd
2024-11-01 10:43:16 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325436
Bernd
2024-11-01 11:00:05 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325438
>>325436
Insults are only poisoning the discourse, so it's useless to use them in a rational conversation. They actually weaken your point, because you automatically seem very immature when you insult people and people will neglect your argument.
Bernd
2024-11-01 19:31:39 ⋅ 1mn
No. 325476
>>325438
>and people will neglect your argument.
Like they don't do it anyway, retard.