Board Speed Theory
Bernd 2021-06-08 21:26:51 ⋅ 2y No. 115531Not to cite anyone in particular, but you notice a lot that some people don't want to post on a board because it's dead, and the board is in turn dead because nobody posts on it. I find this effect interesting; and it's understandable: if there's no threads to engage with, there's not much of a reason to go to a board, no?
Well, then I asked myself; how would one model expected board speed? How does number of posters affect it? What's the correlation? Of course, posters have very different levels of postings individually: some are prolific, some are more prone to making new threads while others generally just reply – that's a lot of variables. But let's just assume that there's not much difference between bernds, and let's assume that, since bernd doesn't go outside and has a fucked up sleeping schedule, there's no real power hours at any time. (Yes, I'm being a physicist here.) What kind of function of N – number of posters on a board – is posting speed? How does bringing a new poster affect board speed?
So, if we assume that all bernds are equally likely to create a thread, and will reply with equal likelihood to what they read (not necessarily reply to everything, just to things they find interesting, or have something to say) – bringing a new bernd over will 1) increase the number of threads (since he is OP of some of them now) as well as 2) increase the number of replies in each thread.
But his threads and replies, in turn, also make it more likely for all other bernds to post something: in reply to his posts. So if everyone reads everything and replies to everyone (when applicable) – number of threads goes as N, but number of replies, and thus posting speed grows much faster, since there's not only more posters, but also more content to reply to! Is it N² – N threads times N bernds who might reply? No – each new reply also makes every other bernd more likely to reply!
It's an infinite series: if probability of a bernd to reply is p, and if N bernds create N OPs: then there will be N*pN first order replies (N threads, and each of N bernds has probability of p to reply); then there's N*pN*pN second order replies (replies to first order replies), and so on and so on: N + pN² + p²N³ + p³N⁴ + ... = N/(1-pN) (which obviously makes sense only if p<1/N)
This has an interesting consequence. While number of bernds is small – the denominator is practically 1, and board speed grows roughly linearly with number of bernds. But as number of bernds approaches critical value: Ň=1/p, the board speed should, in this model, suddenly start diverging towards infinity. (Clearly, this shows that model assumptions are broken.)
Well, we assumed that all bernds can read everything, and will reply to everything they feel like replying to: but, can bernd really produce infinite number of posts? Not really: as the number of bernds approaches this critical value, suddenly the board becomes fast enough that there's constantly new posts, and bernds can no longer reply to absolutely everything. At higher speeds, there's not even enough time to read everything bernd might be interested in. But, we have seen that there's a critical number Ň when a board ceases being slow. At that critical number, the board is suddenly fast enough that, no matter when you come, there's new posts being made.
The key to getting the board alive is, thus, increasing the number of bernds past this critical number Ň.
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:31:44 ⋅ 2y
No. 115532
FUCK OFF LOW EFFORT KOHLZHINE SHITPOSTER REE
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:32:23 ⋅ 2y
No. 115533
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:35:55 ⋅ 2y
No. 115538
>>115532
Is that you ins pic's?
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:47:12 ⋅ 2y
No. 115541
>>115538
are you this person?
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:48:36 ⋅ 2y
No. 115542
>>115541
wtf where did you find this pic
Bernd
2021-06-08 21:57:19 ⋅ 2y
No. 115546
>>115542
Obviously I didn't do any hackings, only got this because appeareantly you were posting this around and made it to kohl.
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:02:05 ⋅ 2y
No. 115547
>>115546
well clearly (if I didn't delete it) I would only have the unedited version...
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:05:38 ⋅ 2y
No. 115548
>how would one model expected board speed?
I've been asking myself this question too since I started posting here regularly probably around February this year.
The curve I imagined looks like this, I fucked it a bit up in the beginning, it shouldn't be so flat but rather a linear growth.
I define the critical number Ň as the board speed, which an average Bernd needs to consider a board worth/comfortable posting on, aka. not dead.
>>115533
I was just mocking :3
>>115541
At least mark it as a spoiler pls -_-
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:06:37 ⋅ 2y
No. 115549
I actually left my bed and turned on my PC only to draw this curve, I was as happy as surprised to see that anyone else thought about this topic.
I hope I didn't do any stupid mistakes, I'm really tired.
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:08:23 ⋅ 2y
No. 115550
>>115548
>At least mark it as a spoiler pls -_-
How?
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:10:21 ⋅ 2y
No. 115552
>>115550
Lol I'm stupid, I was 100% sure that there is a spoiler function already on this board but I can't find it, kek.
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:12:32 ⋅ 2y
No. 115553
>>115552
oh well
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:17:59 ⋅ 2y
No. 115554
Therefore once again I am doing a great job making this board alive and that autistic German still hasn't thanked me but actually wants to ban me. Is he a kohl spy that wants this board dead?
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:20:14 ⋅ 2y
No. 115556
>>115548
>>115549
Added some of my own thoughts.
I'm thinking, when there's a lot of content, the board goes back to linear regime: but with a different slope. Everyone posts as much as they can, it goes simply as N again.
Cozy zone is when you start noticing replies as you post, not just every next time you check on site. Once posting volume becomes large enough that you can no longer obsessively read everything and reply to everything, you enter fast board mode. wtf mode is obviously when board is too fast to be usable.
bernd.group has a bit of growth needed to enter the cozy zone, but stimulated by us consciously increasing the posting rate p, we're already entering it right now.
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:24:05 ⋅ 2y
No. 115558
>>115554
The traffic you provide often looks like that:
>you make a thread
<someone replies
> - LOOL are you MAD? xD
< - N-No... not really? I just replied o.O
> - why do you keep replying then?? you are MAD xD
I don't want you banned but I fail to understand why you do this.
Bernd
2021-06-08 22:53:53 ⋅ 2y
No. 115569
>>115558
Dunno, apparently I am stupid. Hopefully I will change. Imageboards destroyed me?
But also I am too bored to follow a thread I make. I guess I dont really care what anonymous people say. I just throw it off my chest and forget about it.
Now I don't know why I do the stupid threads about virginity. I am no bully. And I don't even find it funny. Though I find it interesting that it attracts responses despite being so low effort. I guess its my reaction to all the antifeminism/antiwoman shit from incels on kohl. Similarly I randomly shitpost antiwh*te shit.
Yeah, ironic shitposting is still shitposting....
Bernd
2021-06-11 19:29:48 ⋅ 2y
No. 115779
Wow, I can't believe this thread was already near the bottom of page two.
Deda borad no more?
Bernd
2021-06-12 13:06:16 ⋅ 2y
No. 115805
>>115779
Maybe KC rip manage better
Bernd
2021-06-12 19:22:31 ⋅ 2y
No. 115826
>>115805
>KC rip
Excuse me, but I post on bernd.group
Bernd
2021-06-13 17:39:43 ⋅ 2y
No. 115851
Interdesting thread.
Especially as I myself discard many "good" chans for the sole reason of being slow.
Bernd
2021-06-13 23:55:17 ⋅ 2y
No. 115861
So how do you attract more quality posters?
Bernd
2021-06-14 00:02:30 ⋅ 2y
No. 115862
>>115531
Very informative.
Bernd
2021-06-14 00:57:31 ⋅ 2y
No. 115864
>>115861
You can't. You wait until they stumble here by accident without opening up the board to shitposters. We're in the beginning phases of eternal September but I don't see this board gaining a huge posting speed without the content or nukc going belly up.
Bernd
2021-06-14 06:36:33 ⋅ 2y
No. 115867
>>115861
Banning op would be a good start
Bernd
2021-06-14 11:58:51 ⋅ 2y
No. 115873
>>115867
Try making a better post than slovball and I will consider your onion worthy discussing about.
Bernd
2021-06-15 04:26:14 ⋅ 2y
No. 115906
>>115867
Cirno, pls.
Bernd
2021-06-15 21:44:31 ⋅ 2y
No. 115922
when kc/int/ died I made the big mistake of moving to 4c*an/int/
that website is shit and I am annoyed beyond belief by the retarded content and awful moderation there
pls revive kc/int/, I want to move here so bad, pls pls pls
Bernd
2021-06-15 22:25:21 ⋅ 2y
No. 115926
>>115922
new posters come and go, but during my almost 6 months here this board became a lot faster
Bernd
2021-06-16 06:12:31 ⋅ 2y
No. 115929
>>115922
endchan's kc board is kind of active and this board is geeting more and more active all the tlme
Bernd
2021-06-16 22:20:00 ⋅ 2y
No. 115974
Yeah Bernd.group has become a bit faster then it was at the start. We have to keep going and promote the board to get some more bernds on board from the old KC. im in some old bernd steam groups, maybe i could show them this board.
But still, for a board to take off it takes time, effort and faith.
Bernd
2021-06-16 23:22:42 ⋅ 2y
No. 116016
>>115974
You should!
We are so small that even one more poster already makes a huge difference.
Bernd
2021-06-16 23:34:56 ⋅ 2y
No. 116032
>>116016
Hm, that's another interesting metric to consider.
How much – relatively to current board speed – does adding one further poster increase speed.
Intuitively – there should be a region in the "picking up speed" region, where each further poster increases posting speed by a LARGER percentage than the previous did. But might be a very narrow region.
Bernd
2021-06-16 23:59:13 ⋅ 2y
No. 116040
>>116032
I would say you need atleast 20 bernds active at all times to ensure a constant flow of posts. that would mean a userbase of around 100-150 bernds that know about Bernd.group and post on it daily. Right now i think we are at 30-40 unique bernds.
Bernd
2021-06-17 13:53:04 ⋅ 2y
No. 116092
>>116040
Hmm, let me try to count:
I know
~8 german posters
~5-6 american posters
2 russian posters
3 dutch posters
2 swedes
~3-4 finns
1 norwegian
1 brazilian
1 turk (not bo)
2 frenchies
1 slovenia
more?
Bernd
2021-06-17 13:53:29 ⋅ 2y
No. 116093
>>116092
I'm pretty much the only American poster
t. Schizo
Bernd
2021-06-17 13:59:00 ⋅ 2y
No. 116094
>>116092
>1 norwegian
I identify as northern Danish
Bernd
2021-06-17 17:59:05 ⋅ 2y
No. 116112
>>116092
Dog be praised I'm still invisible.
Bernd
2021-06-17 19:57:12 ⋅ 2y
No. 116119
>>116092
Two brazilians, but I am more active
Bernd
2021-06-17 20:06:01 ⋅ 2y
No. 116121
>>116112
Literally how tho?
You've probs done most of blogposting last month.
Bernd
2021-06-17 20:30:05 ⋅ 2y
No. 116125
Bernd
2021-06-17 22:14:03 ⋅ 2y
No. 116154
>>116121
I will not confirm or deny your outrageous claim.
Bernd
2021-06-20 14:04:37 ⋅ 2y
No. 116345
>>115531
bump for serious discussions
Bernd
2021-06-30 13:08:38 ⋅ 2y
No. 116838
>>115531
post stuff about germ theory plz
t. italchuk
Bernd
2021-07-11 06:18:14 ⋅ 2y
No. 117307
>>115531
Just focus on making the good threads and the bernds will follow.